Looking at the popular vote...

[NRaleighLiberal]

2016 prediction (538 aggregator) Hillary 48.5 Trump 44.9 Actual Hillary 48.2 Trump 46.1
2020 prediction (538 aggregator) Biden 53.4 Trump 45.4 Actual at midnight Biden 49.9 Trump 48.4

2016 prediction for popular vote was nearly spot on for Hillary, slight undercount for Trump
2020 prediction for popular vote showing 3.5 point underperform for Biden - 3 point undercount for Trump
Of course, in the coming days as the vote counting finishes, the results will change a bit.

But.....

For a president that has never been near 50% popularity - underwater for his entire four years - this is simply remarkable.
For a president that has carelessly witnessed 220 plus thousand deaths from a "Hoax" - it is really quite impossible to fathom.

We will know in - 2 days? 3 days? if Joe gets what he needs in electoral votes and ends this reign of horror.

But we really need come to terms that our country is really quite ill.

[SheltieLover]

1. Ivanka's voting machines?

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. There are 10's of millions of votes from West Coast Blue states yet to be counted. Nt

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. I said that above. Do you not read my posts carefully? Play devil's advocate all you want

but please respect data and facts.

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. You are comparing 2016 vote totals with incomplete 2020 vote counts

That’s not respecting data and facts.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. I am doing some comparisons. I am looking at trends. I have not posted anything

that is not information.

You in another post three times responded to me - using outdated info.

Just let up, okay? Some of us are realists, some optimists, some are stressed, some are trying to make sense out of all of this. One thing I don't need is to get DUers telling people how to feel, how to react.

[ananda]

4. Not only is the country in bad shape...

but our whole electoral system is a mess.

There is so much broken that needs to be
fixed, it’s unreal.

All the signs and harbingers were in place for
what has happened tonight. It was just
magical thinking to believe otherwise.

However, we have seen a few bright spots,
and we must stand strong to create more.