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tnlurker

(1,020 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:31 AM Nov 2020

Most of the discussions earlier favored Biden. why is Trump so strong now?

Especially in states where republicans are in charge. FL, TX, OH, etc. In my area, red areas were slow and not crowded like Trump supporters were staying home. There were several reports like thus throughout the day. I saw a couple of reports that voting was light in red GA and South Carolina. That now doesn't seem to be material.

There was never reports that Trump gathered additional groups to his favor during the past few months. Where are these people voting for him coming from? There are no reports prior to tonight that this might legitimately happen. These are not real numbers in my opinion.

What are the exit polls showing....like the last election where the networks were amazed that Trump won because they knew the exit polling was showing something different.

Or am i being crazy here????

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Most of the discussions earlier favored Biden. why is Trump so strong now? (Original Post) tnlurker Nov 2020 OP
I think quite a bit is coming from usps sitting on ballots in democratic zip codes unblock Nov 2020 #1
Red mirage on some states MissB Nov 2020 #2
I'm thinking because of Democrats banked Jamesyu Nov 2020 #3
join the club... secondwind Nov 2020 #4
GOP voters always show up. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #5
Is Donald Trump a liar and a cheater? Blue Owl Nov 2020 #6
this bamagal62 Nov 2020 #13
The O.P. asks some very good questions that need to be examined by state officials... Orange Buffoon Nov 2020 #7
Similar to what I'm asking thinkingagain Nov 2020 #8
A few reasons kurtcagle Nov 2020 #9
Isn't this the red mirage everyone was warned about? Violet_Crumble Nov 2020 #10
I did mention in my threads kansasobama Nov 2020 #11
His supporters were underpolled last time. Codeine Nov 2020 #12

MissB

(15,805 posts)
2. Red mirage on some states
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:33 AM
Nov 2020

Not being able to flip five states that were always gonna be tough to flip, yet we may still flip one, maybe two.

It’s all good.

 

Jamesyu

(259 posts)
3. I'm thinking because of Democrats banked
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:33 AM
Nov 2020

Everything on mail in so it going to be slower to count. I believe most of it is a red mirage.

TwilightZone

(25,454 posts)
5. GOP voters always show up.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:35 AM
Nov 2020

I think we overestimated the number of them that might be disillusioned with Trump and stay home.

They never stay home, with the possible exception of 2018, though I think we just overwhelmed them that cycle.

Blue Owl

(50,330 posts)
6. Is Donald Trump a liar and a cheater?
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:35 AM
Nov 2020

I would bet money there is some ratfuckery going on. Donny would do anything to save his ass from going to jail.

Orange Buffoon

(188 posts)
7. The O.P. asks some very good questions that need to be examined by state officials...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:38 AM
Nov 2020

...if Dems were in charge of those states.

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
8. Similar to what I'm asking
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:38 AM
Nov 2020

He had so many vocal defectors from 2016
Never heard anything about I voted for Hillary in 2016 but I’m voting for chump now.

So much more larger crowds against him than for on and on

I really hope the mail votes etc make the change

I had such high hopes for the White House debate and house of reps

Right now the only thing that’s helping is
My states races are doing well.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
9. A few reasons
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:39 AM
Nov 2020

1) Most of the cities have not yet been counted in many places (The Red Mirage)
2) Republican-controlled non-auditable voting machines
3) More than a million ballots missing in the mail thanks to DeJoy.

I am a statistician. I've followed most of the models and polling being done, and they have all been consistent not only with the results but with one another. Normally, when polling, random errors tend to increase with the volatility of a race, and tight consistent races are usually a very good sign. The fact that out of nowhere all of these Trumpsters show up that were not picked up in polls and surveys is HIGHLY suspicious to me.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
10. Isn't this the red mirage everyone was warned about?
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:40 AM
Nov 2020

Hello from Australia. It's mid afternoon here and me and some friends are drinking wine and trying to make sense of the results. Im gettting a headache and pretty sure it's not from the wine.

Fingers and toes crossed that Biden crosses the line and wins it

kansasobama

(609 posts)
11. I did mention in my threads
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:40 AM
Nov 2020

I am been raising my concern about miami-dade for some time and I was booed a lot. I was merely expressing valid worries.

I am very disappointed with NC. I am completely baffled. Our countrymen are stupid. I mean the other side.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
12. His supporters were underpolled last time.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:41 AM
Nov 2020

It would appear the changes made to polling were insufficient to rectify that.

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