So I guess all those improvements to polling didn't work. nt

[LAS14]

[ZZenith]

1. Or...

[LakeVermilion]

2. How does polling verify the truth?

Obviously the polling organizations can only deal with the data they collect. GIGO was the acronym in the early computer days.

[budkin]

3. Question the results

It makes no sense polling took a dive the second Trump ran.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

4. Trumps people are fucking fanatics

I’ve been saying it all summer.

When have we ever seen boat parades and mike long car parades?

[joshcryer]

8. Exactly, they are fantastical liars.

They took every poll they could and they lied their asses off. I don't even know how pollsters are going to handle these people. And I don't know why they're called "shy" voters. They should be called "lie" voters.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. They are, but how can their numbers be identified in polls?

[UCmeNdc]

5. It is not the polling. It is the electronic voting system.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. I think accurate polling has become nearly impossible

at least in part because people don't answer unknown callers on their cellphones (and in many cases those are the only phones they have), or even on their land lines if they still have them. For all I know I might have been called by a pollster but I don't answer my phone unless I recognize the number and I don't know anyone who does. So are the people who are polled just people who answer their phones? What ares the demographics of phone answerers?

[uponit7771]

13. Its nats ass possible every other country. Its like Covid, it can be controlled like it has in ...

... hundreds of other countries on earth its what happening in the US that's screwed up

[LizBeth]

7. We had Republicans voting for Biden, Independents going Biden. I say they are in the machines now.

[crimycarny]

15. I agree

Votes are being flipped

[DrToast]

10. Depends on where the errors were.

[Johnny2X2X]

11. Wait until all the votes are counted.

WI and MI could both be Biden +4 or better.

[uponit7771]

12. Its worse than 2016, ok ... this is horrible

[pnwmom]

14. I think that conclusion is premature. Count all the votes first. n/t