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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:37 PM Sep 2012

Why Is No One Prosecuting Those Involved With GOP Election Fraud?

I just read that the girl that was caught on video was dumped by the RNC, and the other guy Nathan Sproul has been fired by the RNC, among others. Why are they not being prosecuted? They committed a crime and their punishment is just getting fired? Not really a strong incentive to not continue to secretly commit these crimes. If people started getting trial dates people may think twice about involving themselves in these actions. It would also spread the word that the GOP is currently engaged in secret election fraud.

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Why Is No One Prosecuting Those Involved With GOP Election Fraud? (Original Post) JaneyVee Sep 2012 OP
I heard my Senator, Barbara Boxer, say, just now on a taped Ed Schultz Show (I DVR to avoid BlueCaliDem Sep 2012 #1
They Have, Sort Of... WillyT Sep 2012 #2
Annthrax Coultergeist! This is out of hand. Revolution coming soon. JaneyVee Sep 2012 #5
They're Too Busy (U.S. Dept. of Justice) StevePaulson Sep 2012 #24
I hear DoJ also is SWAMPED with other "much higher priority" cases 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #40
k and r goclark Sep 2012 #3
See Reply #1. I think they are trying to do it without the media backlash. freshwest Sep 2012 #4
thanks... goclark Oct 2012 #47
The Dems have known about this for years. it has been happening all over the country and caught robinlynne Sep 2012 #20
Good question. chollybocker Sep 2012 #6
These things take time in the end. hrmjustin Sep 2012 #7
actually, not really. robinlynne Sep 2012 #21
Maybe they don't want to touch it before the election. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #30
What more do they need? They have a taped admission! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #48
I heard something about a criminal investigation being open up in one of the states... hrmjustin Oct 2012 #49
Thread up. Kentuck posted I think. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #51
Because their bosses are elected B Calm Sep 2012 #8
Slow down Columbo. What law did "the girl" break? There may be a law but no one has mentioned it. rhett o rick Sep 2012 #9
KillJoy... WillyT Sep 2012 #10
Hey, is that a direct call-out? rhett o rick Oct 2012 #31
I Would NEVER Admit To That !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #34
Ok but let that be a warning. rhett o rick Oct 2012 #35
Because somebody high up at DOJ is a TBM and kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #11
what is TBM? robinlynne Sep 2012 #22
Testimony Bearing Mormon? siligut Oct 2012 #38
True Believing Mormon. They obey their church higher-ups without question. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #44
oh. robinlynne Oct 2012 #46
What's a TBM? NBachers Oct 2012 #36
True Believing Mormon. See above. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #45
I believe it was voter registration fraud, not election fraud frazzled Sep 2012 #12
voter registration fraud IS election fraud! robinlynne Sep 2012 #16
So Acorn was guilty when ... frazzled Sep 2012 #18
NO. What is happening in FLorida and across the US is purposeful elimination of citizens' right to robinlynne Sep 2012 #23
Hello, the OP is about Sproul, not Florida registration laws frazzled Oct 2012 #42
of course. and? I'm explaining election fraud vs voter fraud to you. It is important to learn. robinlynne Oct 2012 #43
This has nothing to do with Acorn. nada. The difference is between "voter' fraud and election fraud. robinlynne Sep 2012 #29
Crony Judges for $500, Alex Blue Owl Sep 2012 #13
Ok... THAT... Was Really Good !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #14
Thank-you!!!!! Eric holder is all worried about marijuana instead. robinlynne Sep 2012 #15
Pot-smoking grannies are a greater threat to the country HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #26
Instead of Where's Waldo, maybe a more appropriate game would be Where's Eric NBachers Oct 2012 #37
I am on my crappy mobile phone & can't link to save my life catbyte Sep 2012 #17
You Mean THIS ??? - And Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #19
That's it! thank you for posting a link. catbyte Sep 2012 #27
You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #33
The news broke less than a week ago, first there will be the need of an investigation. Tx4obama Sep 2012 #25
Good luck, it will take Holder 6 months just to write a strongly-worded letter. HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #28
He's too busy shutting down pot stores DainBramaged Oct 2012 #50
Americans died for these rights! SCVDem Oct 2012 #32
It takes time. By the time justice catches up glowing Oct 2012 #39
Have they had time to file charges yet? Lil Missy Oct 2012 #41
I think they are still investigating because it involved underthematrix Oct 2012 #52
Because ACORN! budkin Oct 2012 #53

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
1. I heard my Senator, Barbara Boxer, say, just now on a taped Ed Schultz Show (I DVR to avoid
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:42 PM
Sep 2012

Sunday morning Republican propaganda shows) that although she can't comment on the specifics, the DoJ has already opened over 42 investigations dealing with voter suppression.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
2. They Have, Sort Of...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:44 PM
Sep 2012
Criminal Complaint Filed in FL

After some terrible reporting on this originally by the AP, in which they simply took whatever they were told by the RNC and Strategic Allied Consulting and reported it uncritically, they've finally noticed there is much more going on here.

"What first appeared to be an isolated problem in one Florida county has now spread statewide," AP's Gary Fineout reported on Saturday. Of course, it only appeared to them and the RNC "to be an isolated problem."

In any event, AP is now reporting that the Republican Party of Florida (RPOF), --- whose largest expenditure this election cycle, $1.3 million, was on Strategic Allied Consulting --- filed an election fraud complaint against the company on Friday. It's now in the hands of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Of course, that's the same law enforcement outfit who chose not to prosecute one-time Republican superstar Ann Coulter for voter fraud and voter registration fraud, despite the open and shut case against her, reflected by hard documentation showing that she purposely lied on her voter registration form, on her FL drivers license, as well as knowingly voting at the wrong precinct back in 2005 --- in Palm Beach County, coincidentally enough. Her crimes amounted to two 3rd degree felonies and one 1st degree misdemeanor in all, according to the report from the Town of Palm Beach Police Department obtained by The BRAD BLOG back in 2007. The PBPD said, at the time, they did not have jurisdiction in the matter, and it moved up the food chain for years to state authorities and others. Thanks, in no small part to her Republican friends in FL, and a very close friend at the FBI, Coulter was able to run out the statute of limitations clock, and was never held accountable for her election crimes in FL.

Florida, it seems, is very selective about who it chooses to prosecute for election fraud. So we'll see what comes of the Republican complaint against the Republican voter registration outfit.

In another example of selective interest by Republican state officials, as of late Friday night, the Republican FL Secretary of State's office still hadn't bothered to return the Monday call of Susan Bucher, who had called to report the fraudulent registration forms before turning them over to the State Attorney on Monday afternoon. So much for the pretend concerns about voter registration fraud by Republican Gov. Rick Scott and his hand-picked Sec. of State Ken Detzner, who are still attempting to remove supposed "non-citizens" from the rolls, even after their failed previous attempts, and even amidst a real voter registration fraud crisis in the state, as Bucher explained to us during our exclusive interview with her last Wednesday.

Many have asked us if the U.S. Dept. of Justice has yet come in to this matter. If they have, we haven't heard about it at this time.


From: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9598




StevePaulson

(174 posts)
24. They're Too Busy (U.S. Dept. of Justice)
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:34 PM
Sep 2012

Making sure all the banksters stay out of jail and looking the other way while their heads spin off.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
40. I hear DoJ also is SWAMPED with other "much higher priority" cases
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:53 AM
Oct 2012

like sending SWAT teams to raid Medical Marijuana dispenseries, criminalizing otherwise
productive decent law-abiding citizens, and such.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
20. The Dems have known about this for years. it has been happening all over the country and caught
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:22 PM
Sep 2012

many times before by citizens. We found the same thing here in Los Angeles years ago. The board of Supervisors would not go near it. We called on the head of the Democratic Party. He would not do anything. They just hushed it all up. Finally the secretary of state of California arrested the head of that operation. He got community service. not even jail time. There were charges against his group in 14 states already in 2006. He always managed to not go to jail.

The Dems are not more interested in honest elections than the republicons. They are interested in WINNING.
that includes Obama.


 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
7. These things take time in the end.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:51 PM
Sep 2012

They have to open up a formal investigation. It is not the kind of crime you just arrest someone.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
30. Maybe they don't want to touch it before the election.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:07 AM
Oct 2012

they try to refrain from prosecutions, indictments, and arrests 60 days before an election.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
49. I heard something about a criminal investigation being open up in one of the states...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:01 PM
Oct 2012

... in question. Sorry that I do not know which one.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
8. Because their bosses are elected
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:53 PM
Sep 2012

officials!

I would think though the federal government would start cracking down hard and locking these criminals up!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. Slow down Columbo. What law did "the girl" break? There may be a law but no one has mentioned it.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:56 PM
Sep 2012

If Nathan Sproul broke laws, let's talk about the specifics. What laws were broken?

I am in favor of prosecution but not a posse.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
11. Because somebody high up at DOJ is a TBM and
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:07 PM
Sep 2012

won't EVER touch a Repuke operative, especially one who is another TBM.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
44. True Believing Mormon. They obey their church higher-ups without question.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:16 PM
Oct 2012

Because they will be denied their family in heaven if they defy them.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
12. I believe it was voter registration fraud, not election fraud
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:09 PM
Sep 2012

It's important to be careful about that. It's exactly the conflation that Republicans made about Acorn. See Josh Marshall on this: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/09/about_mr_sproul.php?ref=fpblg

Read the story at your link. It's about phony registrations; nothing to do with election fraud (which would be stuffing the ballot box, etc.)

In Florida, the state GOP fired Strategic Allied Consulting on Tuesday after election workers in Palm Beach County discovered numerous registration forms that appeared to be filled out in the same handwriting, some including wrong addresses and birthdays.
On Friday, the Times reported that at least 10 Florida counties have detected fraud in the forms turned in by Sproul’s firm.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. So Acorn was guilty when ...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:20 PM
Sep 2012

people it hired to go out and register voters turned in forms from Mickey Mouse? Did Mickey Mouse cast a vote? You believe Acorn should have been criminally prosecuted? When you pay people by the form, you're going to get fake signatures and such turned in. These people will not be registered to vote. There is no ELECTION fraud to it.

I'm sorry, but you're just plain wrong. There's a difference between voter fraud and registration fraud: please read the link to TPM provided for an explanation.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
23. NO. What is happening in FLorida and across the US is purposeful elimination of citizens' right to
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:26 PM
Sep 2012

vote. in large scale. That is election fraud.
it is not perpetrated by one person. but by groups of people.

if Mickey mouse votes, that is the so called GOP "voter fraud".
If Mickey Mouse votes 300 times, it is election fraud.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
43. of course. and? I'm explaining election fraud vs voter fraud to you. It is important to learn.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:26 AM
Oct 2012

if you care about elections.
Sproul is one of many GOP operatives who deal in election fraud.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
29. This has nothing to do with Acorn. nada. The difference is between "voter' fraud and election fraud.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:54 PM
Sep 2012

been working with election protection for many years.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
26. Pot-smoking grannies are a greater threat to the country
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:44 PM
Sep 2012

than election fraud, voter registration fraud, or voter suppression. Just ask Holder.

catbyte

(34,381 posts)
17. I am on my crappy mobile phone & can't link to save my life
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:16 PM
Sep 2012

But look up Roy Schmidt & Speaker Jase Bolger's shenanigans in Michigan. It's worse than McCotter & Schmidt WON the primary. It is sickening. No charges either. I guess that's the beauty of having a Republican AG, SOS, legislature & governor. They are all so crooked that when they die they will have to screw them into the ground.

catbyte

(34,381 posts)
27. That's it! thank you for posting a link.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:46 PM
Sep 2012

What a sleazy, sleazy affair. And Roy Schmidt is plotzing all over himself apologizing and acting all contrite. I fully expect him to be elected, but he should be in jail.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
25. The news broke less than a week ago, first there will be the need of an investigation.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:40 PM
Sep 2012

After all evidence is collected and the investigation has finished THEN charges can be brought forward and court dates scheduled.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
32. Americans died for these rights!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:21 AM
Oct 2012

Anyone violating these rights should also die!

It's that important!

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
52. I think they are still investigating because it involved
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:17 PM
Oct 2012

multiple states. be patient. The truth and the criminals will be exposed.

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