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Botany

(70,490 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:23 AM Nov 2020

The polls were not off the election got rat fucked.

I don't know how but these results does not pass the smell test to me.
If Trump gets a second term America is dead.
We have to get rid of those God Damn machines.
We are now seeing why Mitch McConnell blocked any and all election security actions.

This should have been a landslide of epic proportions by any metrics.
You had the former Republican Governor OH, Kasich coming out for Biden.
You had Sen. Flake of Arizona coming out for Biden.
You had the Republican Chairman of the Florida Senate coming out for Biden.

Trump has to be the least popular and the worst President in American history
and he has been bleeding support and but he added to his 2016 count?

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The polls were not off the election got rat fucked. (Original Post) Botany Nov 2020 OP
I hear you. rownesheck Nov 2020 #1
Yes! crimycarny Nov 2020 #2
Yep! GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #3
Can't disagree at all. Alliepoo Nov 2020 #4
Something is certainly wrong PCIntern Nov 2020 #5
I realized that the second TX and FL were handed over and the calling of AZ went on long pause... Hugin Nov 2020 #6
Wait until the results are final to talk about poll errors Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #7
Yeah, something totally stinks. Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #8
What stinks are the number of pieces of shit that voted for Trump. dem4decades Nov 2020 #9
It's hard to say. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #10
Yeah, I'm starting to think it wasn't the polls that were off, it was the vote count. Liberal In Texas Nov 2020 #11
You are absolutely right. Last time every poll had Hillary winning yet she lost Maraya1969 Nov 2020 #12
In 2016 in Wisconsin Russ Feingold was @ something like a 95% chance of winning back his senate seat Botany Nov 2020 #13

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
2. Yes!
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:26 AM
Nov 2020

Unless we want Russia or other foreign countries deciding our elections every year. It’s frightening just how easy it is for these voting machines to be hacked.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
6. I realized that the second TX and FL were handed over and the calling of AZ went on long pause...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:30 AM
Nov 2020

The fact the hold up seems to be more than coincidentally in the exact states Il Douche needs only makes the game obvious.

It's probably a complex combination of suppression, intimidation, and votes stuck in limbo.

Maybe, instead of political lines, pollsters should move to using market areas (such as are used by the real estate & broadcasting) to make their forecasts.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
7. Wait until the results are final to talk about poll errors
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:32 AM
Nov 2020

Things are still moving around significantly. A tie can be Biden +5 bu this evening.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
8. Yeah, something totally stinks.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:33 AM
Nov 2020

I've smelled this before...oh, yeah, stinks of the cancerous rot known as Karl Rove.

Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
10. It's hard to say.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:36 AM
Nov 2020

People dont answer pollsters anymore. Even good polls say that only 1 out of 100 people that they call actually answer the phone and participate in the poll. So we really dont know the profile of the people who are more inclined to participate.

Liberal In Texas

(13,546 posts)
11. Yeah, I'm starting to think it wasn't the polls that were off, it was the vote count.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 08:37 AM
Nov 2020

It's not like there were just one or two polls, the whole menu of them was nearly the same except a couple of outliers like Rasmussen.


Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
12. You are absolutely right. Last time every poll had Hillary winning yet she lost
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:09 AM
Nov 2020

Now Joe is winning every poll and he almost lost. He had a 90 - 97% chance of winning by all the serious statistical models.

Something is seriously fucked in this country.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
13. In 2016 in Wisconsin Russ Feingold was @ something like a 95% chance of winning back his senate seat
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:13 AM
Nov 2020

But somehow he lost.

The # 1 issue according to the polls for 70% of the American people was the C-19 pandemic
this election shouldn't have been even close.

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