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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSusan Collins is performing under 50% in ME-SEN
Wait until RCV kicks in.
ALBliberal
(2,339 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)It makes no sense to me that someone who is ranked first didn't just win the ticket in the first place.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)This method, also known as instant-runoff voting, was invented around 1870 and has since been adopted by a handful of democracies across the world. Australia has used ranked-choice voting in its lower house elections since 1918. The system essentially allows voters to choose candidates in the order of their preference, and is meant to yield a winner who most pleases the most people.
Heres how it works. In ranked-choice voting elections, voters canbut do not have torank the candidates on the ballot in their order of preference. If a candidate wins a majority of first-preference votes, they win the race. If not, the candidate with the fewest first-preference votes is eliminated, and the second-choice votes of voters who preferred the eliminated candidate are allocated to those who remain in the race. This process continues until one candidate has a majority.
https://qz.com/1676718/the-pros-and-cons-of-ranked-choice-voting/
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)...then they add in voters 2nd choices... the idea is to keep a 3rd party spoiler from determining the outcome. In Maine the independent candidate was very liberal and told her supporters to choose Gideon 2nd so she didn't help Collins get reelected.
Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)I just read the 3rd party candidate encouraged supporters to make Gideon 2nd choice so as not to play spoiler. I'm still doubtful that gets Gideon over the hump unless the outstanding vote gets her a lot closer.
In It to Win It
(8,236 posts)In order to win, a candidate has to get a simple majority of all votes (50% + 1), and not a plurality.
If no candidate gets over 50%, it triggers a run off between the two biggest vote-getters, at which point the voters 2nd round choice votes are tallied.
Voters in Maine ranked their choices on one ballot. If you choose Collins as your first vote, Gideon as your second vote, and Collins doesnt get over 50%, your second choice goes into effect. Your vote ultimately goes to Gideon.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)If Collins doesn't get 50% or more, then Linn's total is zeroed out and the Linn voter's second choice is counted.
If there is still no candidate with 50% or more, then Savage's total is zeroed out and the Savage voter's second choice is counted.
Given current percentages with 72% of votes counted, essentially all of Savage and Linn voter's second choice would have to be for Gideon to put her over Collins.
steventh
(2,143 posts)Here's a link to an explanation.
https://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/upcoming/rcv.html
Don't ask me anything about it though. I've been up all night and it's difficult to even be coherent.
Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)Cha
(297,137 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)still_one
(92,131 posts)still_one
(92,131 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Jon Ossoff said the problem with instant runoff is that Democrats will all show up for the first vote but if there's a second vote , turnout is always down. It's hard to get them back to the polls.
still_one
(92,131 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Georgia doesn't have ranked choice like they do in Maine they have a runoff if noone gets to 50%.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)PAMod
(906 posts)That's what Ossof was talking about.
RCV requires only one election - you rank your top two (I think) and they go until someone gets over 50%
BComplex
(8,035 posts)She's not going to let anybody stay home if there's a runoff in her state.
atse
(42 posts)Unfortunately, I read at the 538 blog that the remaining votes aren't in heavily blue areas, and some are even in red counties. Collins' lead needs to go down a point or two. She's currently at 49.5%, which means she would only need to be the second choice on a small fraction of the third party voters's ranked choices to get over the top.
But hey, there is a general "blue drift" phenomenon where the ballots tallied late tend to lean Democrat. Maybe her lead will shrink. It ain't over till it's over.
Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)But, thank you. I think I've caught up.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Is based on the early vote being counted last in states that wouldn't allow it counted in advance. I do not know whats left to count in Maine but it would only help if it was mail in votes.