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I've said it before and I will say it again - AM political talk show hosts are the biggest problem in this country. Why? Because they are on the radio 24 hours a day, they can go largely unchecked, fact wise, and they go to the places Democrats fear to tread.
The Trump administration is the dream administration of, by, and for AM radio talk show hosts. It's the product of nearly 40 years of mental conditioning to get people ready for this. He says and does what they are all thinking but won't say it out loud because there's still that pesky FCC that they have to deal with. Entire generations have now been subjected to Limbaugh's hatred and fearmongering through their parents. That's a problem.
And before Limbaugh, states that we now view as hard red like Kansas and Ohio, and Georgia, were once dyed in the wool blue dog Democratic states. They were an almost guarantee that they would turn blue in every election. Not anymore. Since Limbaugh showed up on the scene and started demonizing anyone to the left of JFK, the opposite has happened. These states are now hard right and won't be going back any time soon.
Rush Limbaugh is on the radio for 4 hours a day. Every day. His job is to scare white males as they get into their zip code sized trucks on their commutes. And if Rush Limbaugh s too bland for you, there's Sean Hannity and Mark Levin, who both have direct lines to Trump. If those guys are too bland for you, then you go to the internet hosts like noted racist Wayne Dupree, safe space triggerers Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan, and the bottom of the sewer, Alex Jones. These guys can say whatever they want, and nobody will call them out on it.
Conservatives have a monopoly on AM radio and it is literally killing this country. They have control over nearly 1500 radio stations across the country and many of them are markets that we'll never go to. They also have three satellite news networks - Fox, Newsmax, and OAN. And they reach the states that Democrats fear to go to. It's why they always win states like Idaho and Kansas and Texas, and why the politics there will likely never change. And it's why people were so easily flipped in 2016 - because they targeted everybody, whether they were properly educated or not. And they were able to convey an anti-Obama message across all of these channels.
Of course there's no remedy to this problem. But until democrats are willing to address the 800 pound gorilla in the room, expect the same shit to happen in 2024 and 2028. And way into the future.
MomInTheCrowd
(268 posts)Drive any stretch in the West. AM is crazy right, or realllllly religious, especially any music stations.
LonePirate
(13,408 posts)Republicans are masters at disseminating their message and muddying the waters for Democrats on the internet. Shared/read articles and stories on Facebook are completely dominated by right wing outfits. The left is being decimated. A surprising number of people only receive news or updates via the internet and not televisions or radio or newspapers.
Initech
(100,040 posts)And they've gone hard right. We get along fine as long as politics aren't brought up. It's why I don't touch Facebook.
ansible
(1,718 posts)So many of you don't even know who Joe Rogan is, for example.
Cosmocat
(14,559 posts)AM radio could completely go away today and they will just go into there even more crazy ass internet bubbles.
JHB
(37,157 posts)If you focus on one, the other will just provide a refresher dose.
However, that means we can't ignore local radio just because internet is easier. We need voices on the ground. Not just a 59-state messaging strategy, but a 3200- county strategy.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Initech
(100,040 posts)Another thing - magazines. I was in a store one time and I counted nearly 15 different publications related to guns. 15!!! And in contrast only three news magazines - Time, Vanity Fair, and The Atlantic. Unbelievable.
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)Initech
(100,040 posts)For "silencing conservatives". Right. No, it's because people don't want to hear racist and sexist bullshit. And if they can't see that then they are part of the problem.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)That, and Faux Noise and OAN .
Initech
(100,040 posts)Instead of broadcasting news and traffic information every hour, they now broadcast Limbaugh and Hannity. I have since removed the station from my presets.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)kinds of misinformation and knows none of what crimes Trump has committed.
StarryNite
(9,435 posts)Nonstop rightwing bullshit.
icwlmuscyia
(296 posts)but Repugs have been changing norms and laws on so many fronts from the time of Reagan - well actually Nixon - that they have built up a military style battle plan on many fronts to win.
- AM radio
- Social media
- language used in news and talk programs (eg "Democrat", "thug" etc)
- schools (dumbing down social studies)
- dealing their own reality
- religion
But most of all Repugs have access to unending deep pockets who are willing to pay nearly any price for power.
I spent a couple years trying to establish a radio base in my area and could find NO one else interested, so I know what you are talking about.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)The main problem happens in evangelical churches.
That's one of those truths that can't be discussed, though, because religion is a big snowflake that constantly needs a protected safe-space (in RW terms).
Initech
(100,040 posts)We have at least four AM stations where I live that broadcast religious programming, and two FM music stations.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)And the more problems in the real world, the more likely people will seek succor elsewhere. The trend is very disturbing to me.
Initech
(100,040 posts)And Homer turns on the radio and nearly every station plays some kind of programming related to "signs of evil".
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)I think I missed that episode, but I can imagine it!
live love laugh
(13,079 posts)democratic media ownership strategy during an interview on Tuesday
Sadly there is zero media strategy when it comes to ownership.
CrispyQ
(36,423 posts)My mother was a John Kennedy democrat. Then later in her life she had a run of bad luck, got a job where they listened to Limbaugh in the back room all afternoon, Monday-Friday, & in 18 months I hardly recognized her she had gone so hard right. My husband, who didn't know her before, had a hard time believing me, then the last two years, he saw it in his own family with someone who watches OANN & spends hours on right wing hate sites.
The rw media machine of disinformation a serious problem & the dems need to wake up & address it.
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)Trump goes around making outlandish statements and how often do they really fact check them. Saying he built "the greatest economy" ever should have never gone anything other than aggressively challenged. Even in states Biden WON, the polls showed (Arizona) more voters trusted Tump on the economy over Biden. No doubt they were bombarded with Trumps misinformation campagin and believed it. Thankfully, other issues in that state pushed support for Biden DESPITE his "weakness" versus Trump. That weakness was completely manufactured by a complicit media.
jrthin
(4,834 posts)Azathoth
(4,607 posts)to be pumped into the homes and cars of American citizens. North Korea wouldn't waste its time on that kind of stuff if it didn't work.
The warning signs were in Trump's rock solid approval rating that didn't budge despite *anything*. That's Kim Jong Un-type support. It's a product of people that have been successfully broken off from reality over a long period of time. They're not even interacting with the real world anymore.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)AIR AMERICA IS BACK after a fashion
https://www.am950radio.com/
https://www.am950radio.com/am950-programs/
Chicago too
https://www.wcpt820.com/
crickets
(25,952 posts)My brother was a republican who loved his gun and his Harley. He then got a job on the road driving through the Midwest and suddenly hes part of the Rump army. Hes normally a sweet guy but AM radio and Rump has rotted his brain.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)I've lived in the rural west almost all my life, and AM hate radio has been spewing poison out here 24/7 forever.
Years ago they were the only AM radio station we could get during the day in very rural areas.
Initech
(100,040 posts)AM radio is ruining lives and tearing apart families. More than just about anything else.
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)stations never have locally originated weather alerts, local news (like schools closed because of flu) etc.
luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)In fact, I remember when Alex Jones was that crazy guy on short wave. Hubster and I liked to listen to short wave, but it got so full of religious and political wackos that we dont bother with it anymore.
BannonsLiver
(16,296 posts)Its yesterdays medium. podcasts are the new preferred medium for a lot of people. Thats the next frontier.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)"AM radio is the problem," "Fox News is the problem," "Facebook is the problem," "fundamentalist churches are the problem," yada, yada, yada.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE HATEFUL BULLSHIT ARE THE PROBLEM.
Not everyone is susceptible to authoritarian, racist, bigoted propaganda and cults, and people need to be held accountable for the fact that they have willingly -- and some quite enthusiastically -- embraced it.
People need to quit making excuses for them and see it for what it is, as ugly as it is. That's the first step for many people, imo. See it and accept it. If you need to twist yourself into a pretzel trying to understand it, then do what you must. But don't excuse it and take away their agency; they're grown-ass adults who have willingly made this choice, time and again. No one has forced them.
Until what makes them susceptible is addressed (their fear-based authoritarianism, racism and bigotry), someone is always going to take advantage of it.
We've tried reasoning and modeling kindness and compassion and trying to "understand them" for ages, and they've doubled down and are now a full-blown cult.
I advocate for shunning when possible to make it clear their worldview is not acceptable and we won't excuse it or ignore it.
MerryBlooms
(11,757 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)I remember "truth in advertising" laws.
How about "truth in news programming" as a way to prosecute the absolute LIES and then being able to leverage that into validation for REAL news that is being slammed as FAKE news.
These deep fake folks putting out videos of ballots being thrown away (2018 footage of completely counted ballots being disposed of after the 2016 election being brought out and touted as Trump 2020 ballots being dumped before counted) are fact checked by SNOPES and the Election Board and actual NEWS outlets, but still people believe them because they aren't being prosecuted for faking the news.
Seems like the FCC needs to be given the power to crush this shit.
Just saying.
IF it's entertainment, then don't call it news.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Returning to truth in advertising laws would be VERY helpful, though unless it can be enforced across social media...
Things have gone to such an extreme now with all the QAnon-like conspiracy bullshit that a certain segment refuses to believe anyone but Trump or pro-Trump outlets like OANN. Anything, even critiques on Fox, are labeled fake news. He was very successful with that bullshit.
So, yes, there are factors as you point out here but, especially in this day and age where so much information is available (which has good and bad points), people who refuse to expose themselves to other information that goes against their biases are making a choice to do so. They want confirmation of their hate.