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This is going to make a lot of you angry, (Original Post) grobertj Nov 2020 OP
Or...people are just liars. Mainly "suburban women" Rice4VP Nov 2020 #1
There's about to be a liberal bias in the White House. PubliusEnigma Nov 2020 #2
And thank God for that!! grobertj Nov 2020 #6
Hi-Ohhh! bigtree Nov 2020 #8
I think the problem may be with new voters Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #3
or are electronic voting machines still being hacked? icwlmuscyia Nov 2020 #4
They're still being hacked, it's why we need to go to a strict paper ballot nation wide. KS Toronado Nov 2020 #11
Until that problem is fixed we will never really know anything icwlmuscyia Nov 2020 #14
Holy crap, you're correct, we still have McTurtle blocking everything. KS Toronado Nov 2020 #17
Since Trump qazplm135 Nov 2020 #5
Just don't EVER look at computerized counting. ret5hd Nov 2020 #7
Doesn't make me mad Dem2 Nov 2020 #9
Here's what else I don't understand Colorado Liberal Nov 2020 #10
Where you have a verifiable paper backup, the shenanigans disappear icwlmuscyia Nov 2020 #18
No. There is massive conservative cheating in several state governments GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #12
Or...that we can't draw conclusions until all the votes are counted... regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #13
Still think rural voting is hinky. AleksS Nov 2020 #15
anywhere there is electronic voting icwlmuscyia Nov 2020 #19
NO. The problem is that because of spam and other interferences, many people do not still_one Nov 2020 #16
Maybe the pollsters are under sampling rural voters. grobertj Nov 2020 #20
 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
3. I think the problem may be with new voters
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:28 AM
Nov 2020

They don't show up in the polling pools and the GOP has been very aggressive in registering them.

icwlmuscyia

(296 posts)
4. or are electronic voting machines still being hacked?
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:29 AM
Nov 2020

Funny that most of the problems with polling never showed up until electronic voting machines were in place.

A vote here, a vote there and pretty soon you're stealing elections.

KS Toronado

(17,230 posts)
11. They're still being hacked, it's why we need to go to a strict paper ballot nation wide.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:34 AM
Nov 2020

Our government loves throwing away mail sorting machines, time to throw away vote sorting machines.

icwlmuscyia

(296 posts)
14. Until that problem is fixed we will never really know anything
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:36 AM
Nov 2020

that was why I was so hoping for us to take the trifecta.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
7. Just don't EVER look at computerized counting.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:30 AM
Nov 2020

Just don’t. Nothing to see there. Look over there instead. Never ask to see the software. Never ask to see the source code. There is NOTHING to see there.

Trust me.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
9. Doesn't make me mad
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:31 AM
Nov 2020

It is a fact, or at least there's a hidden bias based on previous election cycles.

Colorado Liberal

(145 posts)
10. Here's what else I don't understand
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:34 AM
Nov 2020

I'm in Colorado - all mail election, paper ballots, record turnout, most of the votes counted, and.... the results pretty much matched what the polling here said. Polls only have a bias in certain states???

GoCubsGo

(32,082 posts)
12. No. There is massive conservative cheating in several state governments
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:34 AM
Nov 2020

See: Georgia, Florida, probably Ohio. Those are the most blatant examples.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
15. Still think rural voting is hinky.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:37 AM
Nov 2020

Wouldn’t take much but a guy with no scruples to cast the votes of everyone that didn’t show up in “wayoutback county”

“Oh! Janey? She’d have voted for Trump. Don’t know why she didn’t show up today. Oh well, I’ll just mark her down as having voted and slide a Trump vote in the machine for her.”

icwlmuscyia

(296 posts)
19. anywhere there is electronic voting
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:53 PM
Nov 2020

ne verifiable paper backups that can be physically recounted voting MAY be hinky

still_one

(92,190 posts)
16. NO. The problem is that because of spam and other interferences, many people do not
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:42 AM
Nov 2020

answer phones. I believe because of that the paradyme is flawed


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