"Someone might have a price to pay for that," says Judge Sullivan.

[Nevilledog]

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Tweet text:
Jacob Bogage
@jacobbogage
Judge Emmet G. Sullivan comes out swinging at USPS to open his hearing, and USPS's failure to comply with his order.

"Someone might have a price to pay for that," he said.
10:04 AM · Nov 4, 2020

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Yeah, I think so! A BIG PRICE. n/t

[mr_lebowski]

2. Yeah, well, that needs to NOT BE THE VOTERS and the USA in general ...

It needs to be Donald Trump and Dejoy.

[KPN]

11. THIS x 1000!

[NoRoadUntravelled]

61. Exactly.

nt

[mr_lebowski]

63. I love a consensus ... also, the nt goes in the subject line :)

[NoRoadUntravelled]

64. I love a consensus too. And thank you. :) nt

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

62. No doubt that's how it should be.

Not sure that's how it will be.

[brewens]

70. I'd say anyone postmaster that ignored the court order should be charged with election

tampering, or whatever would be appropriate. The Nuremberg defense can't be allowed for anyone involved.

[Captain Zero]

72. Contempt of the Court; neglect of duty

For DeJoy.

[True Blue American]

3. Wonder who?

[gratuitous]

4. Strong words

Are they worth any more than the breath it took to utter them? Some people are just a weensy bit tired of the unrelenting lawlessness of this administration.

[Thekaspervote]

8. Judge Sullivan was the unrelenting judge in the Flynn case!! Yes, his words mean something

[gratuitous]

31. I respect Judge Sullivan

I just don't think there's a legal remedy for the USPS's failure to follow his order. He isn't going to throw anyone in jail, nobody's going to get fined, and ordering the missing ballots to be counted isn't within his authority as a judge.

[BComplex]

50. I don't think there's a legal remedy, either, gratuitous.

That's the hell of the whole thing. Even if he arrested DeJoy, Sullivan is Federal, and trump would pardon deJoy.

[lagomorph777]

51. I don't think Trump has any motive to issue pardons anymore.

He's on the way out, and gives a shit about NOBODY but himself.

[jaxexpat]

67. He's probably barely cogent enough to divine his own heartbeat about now.

It's been a trying day or so for little Donny.

Sleep........sleep little Donny......you've only pooped your pants a little. Sleep

[List left]

53. Sullivan just needs to wait until noon on January 20th to charge him. nt

[BComplex]

55. Good idea!

[GoCubsGo]

5. Might?

No. SHOULD, and a big one at that. Probably more than one "someone", too.

[ancianita]

59. +1000

Showing the impotence judges in the face of defiance of their rulings.
I've yet to find what enforcement agency they use.

[BigmanPigman]

60. He is supposed to hold hearing at noon.

This explains a lot. Trump’s sabotage of the USPS by the numbers:

Link to tweet

?s=20

[ailsagirl]

65. That one little word "might" makes me wonder...

[TruckFump]

6. Holy shit!!!

Rule Number One in Life: NEVER, EVER PISS OF A FEDERAL JUDGE!

If I were deJackoff, I would be very, very concerned.

[JohnnyRingo]

32. Good advice.

Federal judges have massive egos. Though there are naysayers here, I wouldn't trifle with an order from a fed judge. Contempt of court is one weapon.

[TruckFump]

34. Read about Mannie Real.

He was on the LA Central District Court bench when I was in practice. Complete and total asshole...with an ego bigger than Trump's!

Manuel Lawrence Real (pronounced "reel," not "reál"; January 27, 1924 – June 26, 2019) was a United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Central District of California. He was appointed in 1966 by President Lyndon B. Johnson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Real

I saw him hold a AUSA in contempt for not pronouncing his name correctly!

[Stallion]

7. Show Cause Order plus Contempt proceedings Should Be Forthcoming

[FBaggins]

9. They'll just appeal - and likely win

A district judge tells an executive branch agency to change its practices today (and literally on election day)?

It would be too easy to see this court throwing that out as overreach. He couldn't have made the order a week earlier and given them time to implement it or appeal?

[lunatica]

25. Why should they be given more time to do what they should

have done by law yesterday?

It’s like telling the thief to return the goods to the rightful owner. Should the thief complain about being expected to do it right away?

[FBaggins]

44. What law are you thinking of?

Apparently, Sullivan ordered them to do something between 12:30-3:00 that they usually do starting at 4pm... and reportedly made the order at 12:30.

It may have been a good idea, but I'm not sure how he could expect an organization of that size to turn on a dime that quickly. More relevantly... I'm not sure how he would expect a hostile SCOTUS to uphold a penalty for failure to comply that quickly.

Federal judges have enormous amounts of power. But if one of them tells FedEx "I want every one of your trucks inspected for faulty brake lines in the next three hours and a certification on my desk that you've verified that it was done!"... he's likely to get a document in reply that says "we tried as hard as we could but couldn't get it done".

[Native]

10. Sullivan to the Dept. of Justice lawyer representing USPS: "It's your clients that I have some

concern about, each and every one of them, starting at the top of the food chain."

and this...

SULLIVAN: "It just leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouth for the clock to run out – game’s over – and then to find out there was no compliance with a very important court order."

[KPN]

12. A bad taste indeed. We need a purge.

[MerryBlooms]

17. Beaut.

[KS Toronado]

18. Is he saying that no Inspector Generals went to Post Offices yesterday?

[happy feet]

48. YES

The Justice Dept said they wouldn't/couldn't comply. That's exactly the point.

[MerryBlooms]

13. R&K

[Bev54]

14. Yeah the American people are paying the price!

[wryter2000]

15. Do it.

As long as there are no consequences, they'll keep doing this shit. Throw the lot of them in jail for 30 days and let them think about it.

[NurseJackie]

16. Yes. The American people will be paying the price... for 4 years.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

68. And 6 and 2 -- there were other selections on those ballots besides president.

[spanone]

19. Might????

[Takket]

20. what the fuck does it take for a judge in this country to issue a warrant for someone's arrest?

i mean....... dejoy just ignored a court order. if you or I did that we'd be locked up!

[Cha]

21. Rt.. Judge Sullivan.. a hero in the

midst of all the fascist criminal activity of the USPS under de joy creep.

[Blue Owl]

22. Let there be no doubt, Judge Sullivan

Make tRump/DeJoystick pay the goddamned price

[Sneederbunk]

23. Mr. US Marshal here is an arrest warrant I would like you to serve asap.

[cbdo2007]

24. So why couldn't Trump just pardon Dejoy?

[TxVietVet]

35. If he got pardoned,

I believe he would have to admit to the crime for which he is pardoned for. (?)

Didn’t that happen to Arapaho in AZ?

[cry baby]

26. If there's no price to pay, it will become normal behavior. nr

[Traildogbob]

27. Appeal?

Yes. Appeal and delay until the end of January. When trump is gone, Barr is gone. Then they can not Pardon, and their Involvement can be prosecuted. No presidential immunity. We all know ‘who gave the order’. “He won’t be able to handle the truth”. “He can’t keep getting away with this!” A few movie references there.
Lock em up!!!! A applicable Trump reference.

[tableturner]

28. Let's not forget Dejoy's campaign finance violations, some of which are state violations.

He can go to jail for these, and like I wrote above, they are also state law violations, which Trump cannot pardon.

[crickets]

29. +1

[H2O Man]

30. Recommended.

Late last night -- or, more accurately, early this morning -- my cousin called me. He was upset by how things appeared to be going. I told him that I was very confident that Judge Sullivan was going to step up to protect democracy.

Thank you for posting this! It is very much appreciated!

[yaesu]

33. not while barr is in charge. nt

[lagomorph777]

52. Barr doesn't get to prosecute/not prosecute a contempt citation.

So sad.

[Miigwech]

36. .... the American people have to pay the price, Biden/Harris

have to pay the price, FT. Can we get some justice?

[Gothmog]

37. Lock him up

[Jakes Progress]

38. Tough talk, but

who will the judge get to collect that price? Who will enforce the law?

[NoMoreRepugs]

39. I want those ballots counted - period.

[riverwalker]

40. It was Sullivan who made them turn the plane around

When they tried to deport someone without a hearing.

[riverwalker]

41. I love this guy

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/judge-orders-plane-carrying-deported-mother-child-turned-around-blocks-n899311

[riverwalker]

43. I love this guy

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/judge-orders-plane-carrying-deported-mother-child-turned-around-blocks-n899311

[Lonestarblue]

42. We are officially a lawless country.

Armed right-wing vigilantes are allowed to terrorize innocent citizens on a major highway, not only no repercussions but with the president raising their dangerous actions.

Armed vigilantes are allowed to storm state houses to make demands of governors and police merely look on. Unarmed protesters peacefully protesting the public murder of a black man by a cop are pepper sprayed and attacked by police. Peaceful protesters marching to a polling station are pepper sprayed by police.

The leader of the USPS lies under oath to Congress with no repercussions and ignores a federal judge’s orders. There will be no repercussions because we do not have an Attorney General who bothers to enforce the law, we have only a personal attorney for the president.

We have a president who willfully ignores the Constitutional role of the US House with its powers of oversight and refuses to provide documents or allow witnesses to testify. Federal judges support the president’s refusal to obey the Constitution.

We have a president who declared victory and demanded that all vote counting stop because he was ahead. That is not a democracy. I don’t know exactly what we are these days, but it feels like we’re moving further and further away from that notion of equality and justice under the law.

[Hekate]

45. Damn straight

Stay safe, Judge Sullivan.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

46. New: A USPS official told a judge they've ordered personnel in TX to do special sweeps for ...

New: A USPS official told a judge they've ordered personnel in TX to do special sweeps for election mail, with the assumption the judge will sign a proposed order to that effect (attached) — the plaintiffs asked for this because the deadline for TX to accept mail ballots is today

Link to tweet

[Mersky]

56. 👆🏻👆🏼👆🏽

Count all the votes!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

47. This tip apparently came in yesterday but still worth keeping an eye on

This tip apparently came in yesterday but still worth keeping an eye on

Link to tweet

[pamdb]

49. yeah, well

Too little, too late.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

54. Take two: Judge Sullivan in USPS case orders postal investigators to sweep facilities in Texas, ...

Take two: Judge Sullivan in USPS case orders postal investigators to sweep facilities in Texas, where mail ballots are due by 5pm TODAY

Link to tweet

[vlyons]

57. Yeah? And what price might that be?

Barr's In-Justice Dept certainly won't bring charges. How about contempt of court at the very least?

[BobTheSubgenius]

58. Someone bloody SHOULD, I'll tell you that for free.

Absolutely disgraceful!!!

[rocktivity]

66. Lock them up until all the undelivered votes are counted

even if Trump comes out ahead.


rocktivity

[Historic NY]

69. Can we tar and feather him and ride him out on a rail.,

please its so colonial and patriot for postmasters.

[bucolic_frolic]

71. How many ballots, as I read somewhere yesterday, were handed off

to private carriers contracted by the USPS, and are unaccounted for? Any?