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So when will the civilized portion of the United States... (Original Post) Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 OP
The Red states don't want to secede Orrex Nov 2020 #1
Exactly!!! LostinRed Nov 2020 #5
When Newest Reality Nov 2020 #2
Or SoCalNative Nov 2020 #4
They want our money. pwb Nov 2020 #3
And some of their churches are getting our tax subsidies and returning the favor by Mike 03 Nov 2020 #9
How? Cable T V 24 hour news, the Internet, pwb Nov 2020 #14
I couldn't help thinking about that: CA,WA, OR, NM, CA and maybe NV & AZ, HI are natural fits w CO hlthe2b Nov 2020 #6
Don't you mean the eastern portions of Oregon and Washington can go with the red? nt Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #10
yes, sorry... mental spasm... hlthe2b Nov 2020 #13
There aren't red states or blue states. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #7
As long as we are organized as a federation Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #15
We like water. pwb Nov 2020 #16
Thanks for trying. crickets Nov 2020 #17
I don't know, but could we at least get the process started? hamsterjill Nov 2020 #8
I want the strenth, resilience and experience of the organizers in red states in my nation. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #11
Tonight. Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #12

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
1. The Red states don't want to secede
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

They want to forcibly impose their 19th century bullshit on the Liberal snowflakes whose tax payments are greatly subsidizing the impoverished conservative states.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. When
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

When we figure out a good way to get from one end to the other without stepping in them.

Tunnels? An overpass?

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
9. And some of their churches are getting our tax subsidies and returning the favor by
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

fanaticizing their congregations to hate Democrats and vote only for Rs in violation of IRS laws and the Johnson rule.

How did we get in this mess?

pwb

(11,252 posts)
14. How? Cable T V 24 hour news, the Internet,
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:36 PM
Nov 2020

A M RW radio, all cause a big divide. Reagan doing away with the fairness doctrine started it all.

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
6. I couldn't help thinking about that: CA,WA, OR, NM, CA and maybe NV & AZ, HI are natural fits w CO
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:27 PM
Nov 2020

Let the white supremacists of the eastern portion of OR and WA go over with ID and the Dakotas.

I could see lots of similar regional realignments. They need not all be contiguous.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
7. There aren't red states or blue states.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:27 PM
Nov 2020

With a couple of exceptions, everything is purple to some degree.

Unless we're going to create a bunch of city-states, borders will be an issue.

Voltaire2

(12,964 posts)
15. As long as we are organized as a federation
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:36 PM
Nov 2020

of states each governed by plurality election systems, and as long as the federal Senate is ruled by states with a distinct minority of the population, and as long as the president is elected by states rather than direct popular vote - then your graph is irrelevant.

crickets

(25,952 posts)
17. Thanks for trying.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:44 PM
Nov 2020

Those of us Dems who live in red states really enjoy these "throw out the trash!" posts, dontchaknow.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
8. I don't know, but could we at least get the process started?
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:27 PM
Nov 2020

I’m ready to lose the baggage created by their hate, fear mongering, ignorance, disdain for science, and mostly, I just don’t want to have to see their ugly Trumpian faces any more.

Think what the rest of us could accomplish without the drain!

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
11. I want the strenth, resilience and experience of the organizers in red states in my nation.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:31 PM
Nov 2020

Acting like states are monoliths is gross.

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