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Something is fishy. Maybe we did win tsunami style (Original Post) cags Nov 2020 OP
yep yep keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #1
They might be shocked that their cheating didn't stick. madaboutharry Nov 2020 #2
Let's keep our tinfoil unfolded for a few more days at least. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2020 #3
Happened in Ohio in 2004 crimycarny Nov 2020 #6
Agree, let's at least wait till there's some semblance of a total count. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2020 #10
Why????? triron Nov 2020 #11
Putin margin of error? (eom) StevieM Nov 2020 #4
100% crimycarny Nov 2020 #5
Well we know they tried to cheat. hamsterjill Nov 2020 #7
I keep thinking about Anonymous after the 2012 election. Jeebo Nov 2020 #8
I think you're on to something. Trump campaign brings in Karl Rove: Trailrider1951 Nov 2020 #13
Yes we did. ucrdem Nov 2020 #9
You betcha life! eom scrabblequeen40 Nov 2020 #12

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
5. 100%
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:08 PM
Nov 2020

Read this re: how Rove stole the 2004 election and how he tried (and failed) to do the same in 2012. I remember the hacking group Anonymous claiming to have prevented a “mad in the middle” attack in 2012 (for Ohio). With a corrupt officials in high places, this is depressingly easy to do. We need to address our easy hackable electronic voting infrastructure. Paper ballots and manual audits.

https://washingtonspectator.org/did-an-election-day-lawsuit-stop-karl-roves-vote-rigging-scheme-in-ohio/

Jeebo

(2,019 posts)
8. I keep thinking about Anonymous after the 2012 election.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:22 PM
Nov 2020

They were a group of hackers who claimed a few days after that election that they had hacked into a web site that Karl Rove and his minions were going to use on election night to tweak the vote count in a few critical states to swing the election to Mitt Romney. Their claim was that they had erected a password-protected firewall on that site, and on election night there were 105 unsuccessful attempts to get past the firewall. I don't know for sure if their claim was true, but it does explain some things. Karl Rove's election night meltdown on Fox, for example, when he found out that Ohio had been called for Obama. Ohio was one of the states Rove's minions were supposed to fix.

If the Anonymous claim was true, I thought, well, the cheaters will make damn sure that doesn't happen again.

What has happened since then? Well, 2016, and now, 2020.

I think you very well might be right, and this was a blue wave election and Biden won by a big margin and the Democrats just won the Senate. And those polls that the pundits are scratching their heads over were not really wrong, after all.

If it wasn't this, it was something. There was something that was happening behind the scenes last night that was not on the up-and-up. I'm not quite sure about this, but I strongly suspect it.

-- Ron

https://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/did_anonymous_stop_rove_stealing_the_election/

Trailrider1951

(3,413 posts)
13. I think you're on to something. Trump campaign brings in Karl Rove:
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:00 PM
Nov 2020

Rove responds to reports he's advising Trump campaign
BY J. EDWARD MORENO - 05/22/20 11:39 AM EDT

Former White House strategist Karl Rove pushed back Friday at reports that said he is advising the Trump campaign, but said he does give “unvarnished advice” to Trump's campaign when it contacts him.

Rove said he is friends with Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale, and that Parscale calls him from time to time.
**snip**

"The idea that I’m somehow deeply engrained in the Trump campaign … I’ve got a busy life with Fox and Wall Street Journal and speeches,” added Rove, a political contributor to Fox News and a columnist for the Journal.

When Benson asked if it would be fair to say he was "occasionally informally advising the Trump campaign,” Rove responded, “I think that’s even too far."
**snip**

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/499151-rove-says-he-gives-unvarnished-advice-to-trump-campaign

All they do is lie and cheat. For power, fame and money.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
9. Yes we did.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:24 PM
Nov 2020

They aren't counting our votes, don't intend to count them, won't count them unless they're compelled to very dire means, and even then they may not ever count them. That's who they are.

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