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In It to Win It

(12,528 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:50 PM Nov 2020

Election 2020: Thus far, what has shocked you about this election?

For me, there are a couple things...

1) I didn't expect this election to be a blowout, but I didn't expect it to be the squeaker that it has become.

2) As a Floridian, I wanted Florida to go for Joe (I'm sure we all would have liked that). I had no idea that the GOP-voting population had grown as much as it did since 2016. I didn't expect Trump to completely outperform his 2016 turnout by such a huge number. He's gotten over 1M votes more than he did in 2016.

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Election 2020: Thus far, what has shocked you about this election? (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 2020 OP
Not a damn thing except we are winning MaryMagdaline Nov 2020 #1
Love it! In It to Win It Nov 2020 #2
That Trump and Republicans did so well considering Marius25 Nov 2020 #3
When Trump got elected in 2016, I saw the circus that his campaign was In It to Win It Nov 2020 #24
Both, and in that order. I'm a Floridian too. Native Nov 2020 #4
The abject corruption. And the utter stupidity of not understanding that anything digital is fierywoman Nov 2020 #5
Thank you. ZZenith Nov 2020 #22
Just how much deplorable shit there is in the country durablend Nov 2020 #6
Blue collar fears of lockdowns and the next paycheck. empedocles Nov 2020 #13
That crossed my mind. Trump is for opening the economy despite COVID In It to Win It Nov 2020 #20
That anyone believed the polls. Hoyt Nov 2020 #7
Polls always wrong in favor of Republicans. ZZenith Nov 2020 #25
Definitely didn't expect the squeaker. I thought we'd get a big win to lead to an early call Blasphemer Nov 2020 #8
I thought the Maine senate race would have been a closer race. In It to Win It Nov 2020 #16
WI. How the fleep can it be so close. It's like we BootinUp Nov 2020 #9
Thought Democrats would have done Trumpocalypse Nov 2020 #10
I didn't expect GOP turnout to be as high as it was. I expected GOP turnout to be around 2016 levels In It to Win It Nov 2020 #52
None of it. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #11
Thqt there is a known russian asset running for pres & openly cheating SheltieLover Nov 2020 #12
You hit two really important ones. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #14
I thought Maine and Iowa would have been closer races. I also thought that Iowa would be a tough In It to Win It Nov 2020 #18
I didn't expect Ga. to really be this close! I live here in Ga. & I don't know anyone who would napi21 Nov 2020 #15
That is one of the positives for me. Even if Joe doesn't win GA, the fact that it's this close In It to Win It Nov 2020 #29
AA vote zipplewrath Nov 2020 #17
The dangerous people voting for continuation of crimes against humanity, Hortensis Nov 2020 #19
The down ballot voting discipline of DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #21
I am most surprised by the sheer number of morons in this country. nt Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #23
..and this year proved that there are even more morons than we knew about in 2016 In It to Win It Nov 2020 #26
I USED TO BE surprised by the number of idiots.... AZ8theist Nov 2020 #30
I was surprised in 2016. They're out, loud and proud now. In It to Win It Nov 2020 #34
Honestly- not much sarisataka Nov 2020 #27
The polling...AGAIN! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #28
There's one thing among others I just can't grasp ... lpbk2713 Nov 2020 #31
Hispanics voting for the dark side! lastlib Nov 2020 #32
The socialism/communism label that the GOP attaches to Dems In It to Win It Nov 2020 #37
The South Texas Mexican-Americans are starting to tilt to him LeftInTX Nov 2020 #54
They've been saying since the summer that the Cubans and Rice4VP Nov 2020 #44
Nothing really, I figured it would turn into a fiasco. 😡 nt Raine Nov 2020 #33
The persistent stupidity of a large -- albeit minority -- of Americans... W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #35
This is a state one I am not shocked any more marlakay Nov 2020 #36
The results are pretty meh. Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #38
Whoa! In It to Win It Nov 2020 #39
New Hampshire Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #42
My county results looked like a big red wave... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #43
Same here. Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #45
That 48% of voters still support this criminal! bif Nov 2020 #40
North Carolina and Maine. I thought we would get Rice4VP Nov 2020 #41
Just how many people do not hold trump accountable for anything - its always someone else jmg257 Nov 2020 #46
The long line at the polls treestar Nov 2020 #47
Nothing shocks me anymore about any of it. Nothing. mtnsnake Nov 2020 #48
After 2018 and our rousing success, I admit I was shocked at the number of Trumpers peggysue2 Nov 2020 #49
For me, it's that MORE PEOPLE support him now than before In It to Win It Nov 2020 #50
Agreed. peggysue2 Nov 2020 #51
Latinos are breaking for Trump in South Texas LeftInTX Nov 2020 #53

In It to Win It

(12,528 posts)
24. When Trump got elected in 2016, I saw the circus that his campaign was
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:03 PM
Nov 2020

and I figured we would get that same circus (dumpster fire, shit show, etc) in the WH... and we got exactly that.

I thought more people would see the circus, and be turn off from him. Apparently people like the shit show. I'm astonished that FOUR MILLION MORE people actually stood in line to vote for this guy.

In It to Win It

(12,528 posts)
20. That crossed my mind. Trump is for opening the economy despite COVID
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:00 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Wed Nov 4, 2020, 07:32 PM - Edit history (1)

It crossed my mind that people may be COVID-fatigued and want things opened up, and therefore that would translate to Trump votes.

ZZenith

(4,459 posts)
25. Polls always wrong in favor of Republicans.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:04 PM
Nov 2020

Nothing fishy about that, is there?

Can’t possibly be a corrupt election system, no sir.

Blasphemer

(3,616 posts)
8. Definitely didn't expect the squeaker. I thought we'd get a big win to lead to an early call
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:53 PM
Nov 2020

Florida, Ohio, or Texas. The Senate is not a surprise, exactly. All the races had been tightening but I was hoping for at least one more pickup between MT, IA, KS and ME.

In It to Win It

(12,528 posts)
16. I thought the Maine senate race would have been a closer race.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:56 PM
Nov 2020

I thought there may have been more straight ticket voting this time around in Maine, and Biden would help Gideon with a boost.

BootinUp

(51,038 posts)
9. WI. How the fleep can it be so close. It's like we
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:54 PM
Nov 2020

Missed a whole slew of votes that were expected. Covid challenges I assume.

The rest of it should wait for more votes to be counted.

In It to Win It

(12,528 posts)
52. I didn't expect GOP turnout to be as high as it was. I expected GOP turnout to be around 2016 levels
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:11 PM
Nov 2020

They crushed their turnout. Their turnout was massive. I think most of us underestimated it.

I'm sure we would have crushed them in the House and Senate races, but for their turnout numbers. I think we did our jobs improving our own turnout numbers such a large amount but I didn't expect the same on their side as well. It doesn't seem like anyone did, especially if you looked at the media. A lot of the media expected high turnout among Dems and therefore would expand the House majority and flip seats in the Senate.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
14. You hit two really important ones.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:54 PM
Nov 2020

As an aside, I'm disappointed Ernst and Collins were re-elected. It's sickening. I really thought we could regain the Senate, and that those two were going down.

In It to Win It

(12,528 posts)
18. I thought Maine and Iowa would have been closer races. I also thought that Iowa would be a tough
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:58 PM
Nov 2020

pickup for Joe in the EC, but obtainable considering Trump really screwed farmers on these trade deals.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
15. I didn't expect Ga. to really be this close! I live here in Ga. & I don't know anyone who would
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:55 PM
Nov 2020

ever think about voting for a Democratic candidate!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. The dangerous people voting for continuation of crimes against humanity,
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:58 PM
Nov 2020

endorsement of crime and smashing laws and norms, depraved indifference to life that's developed an opportunistic "cleansing" of supposed only old into a holocaust, cannibalizing the working classes to serve our new kleptocracy...oh, hell, on and on.

Those who didn't admit before that it not only could happen here but with today's increasingly authoritarian white male power Republican leaders is should have all doubts settled.

But we're going to stop it, as we did nearly 100 ago as other nations fell to their worst elements.

AZ8theist

(7,156 posts)
30. I USED TO BE surprised by the number of idiots....
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:10 PM
Nov 2020

but no longer. We are a nation filled with morons. The Repuke war on education over the last half century has seen to that...

sarisataka

(22,361 posts)
27. Honestly- not much
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:07 PM
Nov 2020

But then I was a doom and gloomer warning against complacency...

I expected Biden to have be +2M popular votes and the EV would be 274

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,511 posts)
28. The polling...AGAIN!
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:08 PM
Nov 2020

How do these pollsters operate? Do they usually hire people to ask questions, or are the questions automated?

Most people don't answer their phones anymore if they don't recognize the number. Are Trumpers even more that way?

Do the pollsters often hire minorities to ask the questions? If so, I'm sure that many racists would either hang up on them or they'd intentionally give deceptive answers.

lpbk2713

(43,255 posts)
31. There's one thing among others I just can't grasp ...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:12 PM
Nov 2020



Is it even possible that many people might think they are better of than they were
four years ago? The Kool-Aid plant must have been working double overtime.

In It to Win It

(12,528 posts)
37. The socialism/communism label that the GOP attaches to Dems
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:21 AM
Nov 2020

is a killer for Florida Hispanics.

They buy into the GOP propaganda, who themselves are no less socialistic.

LeftInTX

(34,031 posts)
54. The South Texas Mexican-Americans are starting to tilt to him
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:35 PM
Nov 2020

They want the wall built and are blaming Covid on Mexico.

Children in cages isn't a deal breaker for them.

There are alot of redneck Mexicans in South Texas.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
44. They've been saying since the summer that the Cubans and
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:37 AM
Nov 2020

Venezuelans in Miami like Trump and think Biden is a socialist. They’ve been running ads comparing him to Castro. Hispanic people also looked at the stimulus check as economic growth

W_HAMILTON

(10,242 posts)
35. The persistent stupidity of a large -- albeit minority -- of Americans...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:31 PM
Nov 2020

...and how in the hell we deal with it going forward.

marlakay

(13,113 posts)
36. This is a state one I am not shocked any more
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:55 PM
Nov 2020

About how brain washed people are throughout the country.

Live in Oregon and we had a proposition to decriminalize hard drugs and make mushrooms legal done at doctors office. It was promoted on all the ads as helping with ptsd and using marijuana money for health drug centers. With 80% of vote in it is leading by 11% and even leading in my conservative county by 2%.

That shocked me don't know why, didn't think it would pass but I read my state was first in 1973 to decriminalize marijuana.

Ace Rothstein

(3,369 posts)
38. The results are pretty meh.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:25 AM
Nov 2020

It looks like Trump will lose which is great but there was a lot of not so great news as well.

We aren't going to take the Senate.
We are going to have a net loss of House seats.
We are actually going to end up losing a state legislature when we were predicted to win as many as five. This doesn't bode well for redistricting.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,511 posts)
43. My county results looked like a big red wave...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:34 AM
Nov 2020

... other than Biden beating Trump.

My all-Democratic ballot barely made a dent in the results.

Ace Rothstein

(3,369 posts)
45. Same here.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:38 AM
Nov 2020

One local state legislature seat that was solid Dem for 20 years and flipped around 2014 went something like 65/35 Republican.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
41. North Carolina and Maine. I thought we would get
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:32 AM
Nov 2020

those two senate seats. I thought Biden might win NC too.

I had Georgia and Arizona on my electoral map. Black people stood on line in Georgia for 10 hours, it’s obvious that they weren’t voting for Trump so that’s why Biden my pull ahead there.

Not shocked about Florida. They’ve been saying for MONTHS that the Cubans and Venezuelans think Biden is a socialist

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
46. Just how many people do not hold trump accountable for anything - its always someone else
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:39 AM
Nov 2020

at fault.

1000 people dying almost everyday since February, and they just do not care.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
47. The long line at the polls
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:39 AM
Nov 2020

which I thought meant people were turning out to get rid of the Dotard. In a way it was, but I'm in Delaware, where Biden got 58%. Maybe some native son feeling.

peggysue2

(12,445 posts)
49. After 2018 and our rousing success, I admit I was shocked at the number of Trumpers
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:53 AM
Nov 2020

Shocked that so many Americans would vote for the most corrupt, cruel and incompetent man for POTUS, again.

Which firms up the theory IMHO that this is truly a cult of personality. Trump's name wasn't on the ticket in 2018 and we swept the country winning in places that surprised even the pundits. But this year? The Trumpers couldn't' get enough of the man and his disgraceful behavior. After 4 miserable years of non-leadership, the sexism, racism, etc., it all boils down to an astounding number of Americans just don't care about anything other than tawdry entertainment and defiant ignorance.

Covid didn't change their minds, even though Dr. Fauci was right about the current surge--100,000 new cases per day, 1200 deaths. The economy going in the tank didn't move them. The raw injustice and bigotry played to their own beliefs to the point where vigilantism has been celebrated. And those babies in cages? Blame it on the parents, those fleeing economic hardships and/or violent persecution. They also agree with all the whining, the grievance mantra that Trump proudly waves to cheers and howls and chants of "Lock him/her up."

This is what we're up against. This is why we fight. Because this depraved behavior and mindset cannot stand, not in a democratic Republic, not in any civilized, rational society.

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