It just occurred to me that the polls got Joe's percent about right 50-52, but

[grobertj]

most of the rest went to Trump. I guess that the 'shy' or 'silent' Trump vote. Any thoughts?

[caber09]

1. Here is what I think the meme will be...

This years shy Trump vote % will be the Law/Order vote...we are for BLM, but we are more for Police..and all that crazy "Antifa", looting, protesting scared us and our husbands...but we didnt want to admit it to pollsters...bec "we arent really racists"...that will be the 2020 Shy Trump voter theme for this year. Had Biden ticked one iota left this wouldve really been more of a disaster than it was. I had a sinking feeling when I saw the exit polls were strong leader....and solving the virus was behind or tied with "the economy"

[regnaD kciN]

6. Well, the exit polls were probably somewhat irrelevant...

...simply because they were polling in-person voting, which was always going to be heavily Republican.

[TheRealNorth]

2. A couple of thougts

- It appears Trump may have drawn ~ 2% of votes that usually go Libertarian
- I have always been skeptical of the "undecideds". This may be the "shy Trump voter" pool.

On the flip side, where Trump seems to have outperformed is in rural areas, building on some of the margins he had in 2016. I don't see these people being "shy" - they are surrounded by Trump affirmation.

[Eid Ma Clack Shaw]

3. Basically, all the "undecided" voters

Now, there weren’t many of them relative to 2016, but I think we need to accept that, for the immediate future, “undecided” is code for “definitely voting for the candidate they know is depraved and despicable”.

The undecided voter is a thing of the past.

[regnaD kciN]

4. Or that those who are still "undecided" after a race like this one...

...are basically revealing themselves as mindless voters, who are likely to vote the way mindless people do.

But, then again, I was always figuring that the undecideds in this race would break for Trump, so I wasn't that surprised.

[Hyper_Eye]

5. I don't think they are "shy" Trump voters.

They are malicious Trump voters. They are lying to intentionally screw up the polling data thus causing Dems to dump money into races that are not as close as they appear. I don't know how you correct for what is clearly a huge population of trolls on the right.

[applegrove]

10. +1000

[relayerbob]

7. Well..

Libertarian vote was low this time around, that's usually al-Qanon territory, so he gained some grounf there. Also, the Republican efforts to sway their own voters was pointless. The cult power is just too strong. There was virtually no impact from almost all major GOP senior officials going agasint Trump, nor his ex-employees, not Lincoln Project or simlar efforts. Marginal at best. These people decided in 2016 that it was OK to vote for a lying crooked prick, as long as he hated the same people they did, and that that was fine as President also.

Trump's attacks on socialism worked with certain groups also, although in FL, Biden was not expected to win anyway. That said, Joe outperformed across most of the state. 20/20 hindsight says he should have spent more money/effort there, maybe send Beto. But Trump spent most of their FL money on spanish speaking ads attacking Biden as a Communist like Castro. Enough were swayed, that coupled with stealing mail-in votes, Trump prevailed there

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. Libertarians coming home to the GOP?

That would be my guess.

Oh well, they still lost.

[JCMach1]

9. USPS Hacked, Voter Suppression of ALL Kinds

Will we even know if anyone got to the machines? ...probably not (black box voting).

So, polling was probably pretty close to correct...

That was Trumps, 'Death Star'... Full Spectrum CHEATING

It took a landslide to defeat it