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scrabblequeen40

(334 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:57 AM Nov 2020

Will this be the last election to suffer from the residual angst of racial integration?

My generation (I'm in my 50's), was among the first youngsters to be educated in integrated public schools entirely.

So, even in progressive California where I grew up and even though I was born about a decade after the Brown decision, racial tension ran high in public schools. I remember fights between the groups of white kids and groups of black kids. I remember very clearly a white classmate saying, "I don't want to fight Mexicans. They're my friends." If you're white, and these events shaped your upbringing, you were on the vanguard of dramatic seachange in American culture. It must have been disruptive and maybe even disheartening to see your privilege slip away.

You would have also been at or close to the peak of your career and earnings power when Barack Obama was elected. If you looked around at your middle-aged self and compared yourself to others that you thought you'd be ahead of, you might be further discouraged. How did all these people get ahead of me, you might ask? The woulda, coulda shoulda thoughts are hard to tamp down as anyone who has gone through a middle-age crisis will tell you.

The good news is, my generation is slipping past its peak. In another few years, we will start to retire.

Americans who have always had integrated schools, and who aren't shocked that a black man was president will take our place.

And the world will be better for it.

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Will this be the last election to suffer from the residual angst of racial integration? (Original Post) scrabblequeen40 Nov 2020 OP
No luv2fly Nov 2020 #1
I'm afraid not. Racism is too deeply ingrained, and there are plenty of young racists The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #2
No. The original Trump base is young Azathoth Nov 2020 #3
He's not going bye bye luv2fly Nov 2020 #5
Nope. SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #4
No. Xenophobia comes easily to the human character. Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #6
Not at all. Trump stands for the White, Male, Christian-dominated society DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #7
very succinct llashram Nov 2020 #8
Since the Venn diagram kirkuchiyo Nov 2020 #9
It's not just racism. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2020 #10

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
2. I'm afraid not. Racism is too deeply ingrained, and there are plenty of young racists
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:02 AM
Nov 2020

who will stay racist as they grow older. Integrated schools won't cure the problem, I'm afraid - and integration is still an illusion in a lot of places.

Azathoth

(4,608 posts)
3. No. The original Trump base is young
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:04 AM
Nov 2020

The racist alt-right 4channers and memers and Qanoners who formed the original nucleus of his hate tumor are all in their twenties and thirties and early forties. They're not disappearing just because he's going bye-bye.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
5. He's not going bye bye
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:08 AM
Nov 2020

Hopefully he won't be president, but unless he ends up behind bars for a very long time, he will simply morph into something else. Media mogul perhaps, and if New York or some other state presses charges and Trump prevails?... He'll be the martyr his base craves.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
4. Nope.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:05 AM
Nov 2020

The good news is that it IS steadily on the decline I believe. But it will still take generations or some seismic event to change it completely.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. No. Xenophobia comes easily to the human character.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:16 AM
Nov 2020

Over millions of years of evolution "different" always meant "dangerous". Survival was precarious, and group cohesion was the only path to that survival. And cohesion meant uniformity. A tendency toward xenophobia is hard-wired into our brains. It's going to be a long, hard struggle to root it out. If we ever do.

As long as the slightest trace of racism still exists, it will find minds that it can easily infect with its poison.

Sadly, the human race is a deeply flawed species, and may not survive the ravages of natural selection.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
7. Not at all. Trump stands for the White, Male, Christian-dominated society
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:16 AM
Nov 2020

This is a battle to the death for many of his supporters for this "cause."

I only have one real disappointment in this election: I thought we would be able to DeNazify/DeTrumpify America. That is clearly not to happen overnight, and it might never happen. This was the one great opportunity to stop it.

Anyway, it didn't happen so it's TOTAL WAR against the issues that inflame these people.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
8. very succinct
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:33 AM
Nov 2020

a white explanation put this way shows the extreme hate that racist whites have always held against African-Americans only. And extrapolating that "Mexican are my friend's" statement, it goes for asian and any other NON-African-American melanin enhanced group in this country. While any non-caucasian group has had their special kind of hell living in racist America, only the African-American has had continuous hate shown and legal murder perpetrated against the race since African-Americans were in enforced bondage and servitude to the white race in this country.

And you don't think if the whites were giving other melanin enhanced groups/cultures a pass that other melanin enhanced races and cultures aren't going to jump on the hate African-American train? It's just a matter of comfort and survival.

And here in 2020, HALF of ALL Americans love trump because he has given them a voice and outlet to spew their hate that has had to be bottled up because they feared that they would suffer shame and degradation. Lo and behold they found out their neighbours thought the same way. And paradise arrived when found they don't have to worry about anything coming back on them at all with the POTUS they have had and who encouraged and enabled their racial hate the last 3plus years.

America is just pitiful in its inability to heal the wounds of slavery and the Civil War largely but not only caused by the enforced bondage and servitude. Segregation and white slaughter of innocent African-Americans after 'freedom' who were just trying to eke out a bare bone existence amid continuous racial hate, threat and murder. And racist hate that has continued unabated to this very day.

kirkuchiyo

(402 posts)
9. Since the Venn diagram
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:52 AM
Nov 2020

of people who follow trump and the people who refuse to follow common sense regarding Covid-19, i.e., wear a mask and social distance, seems to be pretty much be a single circle perhaps they will go away quicker than normal.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
10. It's not just racism.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:08 PM
Nov 2020

You a misogynist? Trump's your guy.

You anti abortion and birth control? He's your.guy.

Pro white supremacist? He's got your back.

Anti government? He's yours.

Think immigrants are all rapists and gang members? You love him.

Just plain stupid and easily manipulated? You love Trump.

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