*Breaking* 11am Hour Ballots found in USPS System, 150k delivered yesterday

[bucolic_frolic]

Scott MacFarlane
@MacFarlaneNews
BREAKING: DC federal court is being asked to order US Postal Service expedite remaining mail-in ballots to elections boards in North Carolina and Pennsylvania. This would include more sweeps of mail facilities to check for missing ballots. Delivery of ballots by 5pm TOMORROW

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Scott MacFarlane
@MacFarlaneNews
NEW: In court hearing, 150,000 ballots delivered *yesterday* by US Postal Service. These include large numbers of ballots put in mail Sunday. Including in Atlanta !!!

[soothsayer]

1. This isn't an oppty for monkey business, is it?

[malaise]

5. My first thought

Bangs head

[mr_lebowski]

7. Don't worry, Shithead and Company weren't organized enough to pull that off

This is NOT what they wanted.

[soothsayer]

11. You're right of course

Phew

[matt819]

10. Me too

Tinfoil hat on.

Trump has his people flood mail with ballots knowing they’ll be delayed. He will demand they not be counted, knowing that Biden will demand these ballots be counted. Or these may be fake ballots. This is where we are now with hundreds of thousands of ballots to be counted.

Tinfoil hat off.

[Amaryllis]

13. Remember the olden days when our minds didn't immediatly jump to conspiracies?

[BusyBeingBest]

43. They would have to come from registered voters who didn't

vote already in person, postmarked by the proper day, and meet whatever other requirements are in place. I don't see how this can be gamed for fraud, but I guess skepticism is always appropriate.

[NCjack]

30. Save the envelopes and dust for NoJoy's prints.

[certainot]

34. the tell is how limbaugh uses this info because he is the main initial trump PR guy and

coordinated with the white house

if trump is pulling something to juice his votes limbaugh will be used to tell the base how to react

same if they don't like this

[Botany]

2. Dejoy should go to the de-prison

This could give N.C. to Biden too.

[lagomorph777]

26. Toss DeJoy in DeJail

[electric_blue68]

37. Bwah! 👍

[Lock him up.]

41. Sweet poetry ;)

Deserves an OP entry for visibility & RECS

LOCK.HIM.UP

[bdamomma]

48. ....

You know it's good to laugh, keeps the stress down.

[MyNameGoesHere]

3. So when is the indictment being handed down for

Traitor DeJoy?

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Of course, Donnie and GOP have got this ...

Some GOP legislatures prevented counting mail-ins before Wednesday, and Donnie wants no counting of mail-in ballots after Tuesday

It's like being squeezed in a vise

[Hoyt]

6. If they were put in mail on Sunday, Monday or Tuesday, kind of hard to blame USPS.

[kcr]

8. You're going to be disappointed

[mr_lebowski]

9. Tuesday I agree ... Sunday or Monday is debatable ...

Obviously Sunday not a mail day, so Monday.

I put mine in mail Monday AM in AZ and it was accepted by the registrar on Tuesday per the website.

If the USPS was ordered to expedite and they didn't, well ...

[greatbaldeagle]

47. This past Monday Nov 2nd?

Or are you saying you put it in the mail on another Monday a while ago?

[mr_lebowski]

53. The Monday 1 week before lol yeah no I'm not a total idiot ;) nt

[greatbaldeagle]

54. Lol. I know you're not

Thanks for clearing that up. Sadly my wife and I didn't trust anything less than 2 weeks here in Georgia as evidenced by a birthday card sent from her friend near Boston taking about 10 days to get to us. We used a drop box a month ago here in Georgia.

[mr_lebowski]

55. I live in a quite-red part of Maricopa County ... I call it South Provo.

I had no doubt whatsoever my mail-in vote would be carried with great alacrity.

We've also done mail-in here in AZ for a long ass time, most people use it. It works smoothly.

[IronLionZion]

14. If they were postmarked by the deadline, then they should still be counted

Before DeJoy, USPS first class was delivered overnight most anywhere in the continental US.

[Hoyt]

20. Some states require them to be in the Election Agency. I think Georgia's law says that.

I'm not sure why anyone would have mailed on Sunday, Monday or Tuesday, even if they could be received later.

[Ms. Toad]

22. Correct - Georgia is a receive by state. n/t

[IronLionZion]

25. I found this recent Georgia court ruling. They've been fighting it in the courts

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-georgia-general-elections-voting-rights-f7ef69c7f79ddc036a14f76a00a4870d

[FBaggins]

44. First class mail was never overnight if you didn't live close to your destination

Three days was pretty standard. Post offices used to have maps showing the various zones (compared to where you were) and how many days it would take.

[IronLionZion]

50. 1-3 days.

Mail in ballots would mostly be close to their destination if voters are staying home because of COVID. Absentee ballots would come in from anywhere and would take longer.

[Ilsa]

21. Unless the voter had no other way to get

Their ballot there, such as a homebound senior, etc.

The state they live in may have provisions against anyone other than the voter handling the ballot until it is surrendered to USPS or an election official.

[happy feet]

45. It's not so black and white. You CAN blame DeJoy/USPS and/or local election board

in cases where mail in ballots were mailed out late (due to any number of reasons excluding late requests), many not received at all (AZ et al) and/or ballots mailed to registered voters timely, but delivered late due to USPS monkey business. These scenarios have been reported in many counties, locales --- specifically blue and urban counties. Stacks of completed ballots were found in USPS locations received well before the election but just not delivered...Judge Sullivan has ordered sweeps of those USPS locations and ballots to be delivered.

[Hoyt]

46. Agree, nothing is black and white. Judge Sullivan was miffed about a mythical 300K ballots.

Philadelphia Inquirer:

“But it’s likely that these statistics seem worse than they actually are, the officials said. To quickly get ballots to election officials this week, the service bypassed its processing center in Southwest Philadelphia. Instead, employees in local post offices manually sorted and postmarked the ballot envelopes, then immediately delivered them to boards of elections the same day, according to postal officials.

“However, this meant those ballots were likely scanned in, but never scanned out, since they bypassed the rest of the system. Or as the service put it, the “local turnaround” "expedites delivery, but is not captured in service performance data.”

“Additionally, given the extraordinary measures the Postal Service instituted this week to ensure the timely return of ballots, the stark drop-off from last week to Tuesday doesn’t appear to add up. Employees at the Southwest Philadelphia said that Postal Inspectors had monitored daily ballot returns for the last week. . . . . .”


https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/usps-mail-ballots-court-order-philadelphia-pennsylvania-20201104.html

No one has found any proof of these 300K ballots not being delivered. If someone has a citation, would love to see it. Also, if they exist(ed) that means local postal employees did it. DeJoy is as ignorant as trump, but he wasn’t at all these post offices to hide ballots.

[Thekaspervote]

12. The honorable Judge Sullivan is not one to be toyed with!! Great news

[Cryptoad]

17. I would be more impressed if,,,,

he would charge Dejoy with contempt and send Federal Marshals to nix him...

[lagomorph777]

28. Yes, Please!

[bdamomma]

51. oh that

would be great. This DeJoke guy is a POS.

I remember when Katie Porter was asking him questions he was so arrogant when she asked him if he knew the price a stamp or first class mail, and he answered her arrogantly "No I don't know". He had that air of superiority condescending tone in his voice.

Felt like slapping him.

[SheltieLover]

18. This!👆

[nattyice]

15. I'd like to see Maine and South Carolina added to that list

Still wishing for a Graham and Collins loss.

[BobTheSubgenius]

16. Heads should roll.

One, at the very least.

[SWBTATTReg]

19. I don't understand why in the world why people would wait so long, if they did, to mail ballots at

literally the last minute? Mail is being put into the system as late as Sunday (with elections coming up on the following Tuesday)?

Am I missing something here?

[bucolic_frolic]

23. Procrastination is part of human nature?

Not all people pay attention to elections or politics that much. Life comes first. They rationalize my vote won't make a difference until someone talks them into it or they watch the news for the first time in 3 weeks. They thought it was mid-November, or the 10th instead of the 3rd. I'm sick and can't make it on Tuesday. There's a plethora of reasons people might do the last minute express.

[SWBTATTReg]

24. Good points ... it's easy to get caught up in the hype, eh? Take care.

[misanthrope]

49. Good points, in a normal year

but with the pandemic's alteration to our routines and general cognizance, it astounds me so many people could procrastinate to such a degree. I understand it intellectually, just not emotionally.

My wife and I mailed our ballots in September because our faith in the system was so tenuous. We knew our votes for Biden would be nullified by the Electoral College system but wanted to make sure our votes for Sen. Doug Jones were cast.

[Ilsa]

27. Maybe they didn't get their ballot early enough.

With seniors and some people, sometimes they aren't very organized in handling their business.

Maybe the mail was deposited, but not postmarked until late?

Maybe some people have no way to drive to a drop-off location.

Just ideas, not trying to be critical.

[ananda]

29. This makes sense. The slow mail can go both ways.

I have been reading about ballots arriving very late to voters.

[live love laugh]

32. +1

[IronLionZion]

52. Plenty of people didn't receive their ballots on time for various reasons

Voters might not get ballots on time because of mistakes on their registrations or ballots that were rejected or they moved or whatever. It's a big problem for college students and transient workers.

[ffr]

31. Can I say this from all of us? I HATE REPUBLICAN RATFUCKERS!

Which is 99% of them!

[electric_blue68]

38. So say we all!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Hope states take extra care and scrutinize these found ballots

Very carefully. Can envision trump in cahoots with USPS to hide forgeries until needed.

[bucolic_frolic]

42. Yeah, especially since some report yesterday was that some boxes

were entrusted to DeJoy's former company for delivery between postal facilities because of existing USPS contracts. So chain of custody is paramount.

[halobeam]

56. ohh I missed that one! Would you happen to have a link?

[bucolic_frolic]

57. I saw it on Twitter

is his company called XPO? something like that. I'm pretty sure it referred to Georgia or Florida.

Here's what a Twitter search turned up: same topic, but this is not the post I saw Yesterday. It was from a more well-known account, but I don't recall which. You read so many things in a day, all while multitasking ............

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Here's a little more details

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[wnylib]

35. On a similar news item, Buffalo

stations report that a man was stopped at the Peace Bridge going into Canada with a large bag that turned out to be full of mail in ballots. He initially tried to claim that it was his own personal mail but examination showed that it was not addressed to him.

He is from a Buffalo suburb. He has been arrested and charged with interfering in the delivery of US mail.

[stopdiggin]

36. you go by the rules that are in place

If extensions were going to be granted (due to extenuating circumstances, covid, post office delays, volume, etc.) -- all reasonable actions -- then those provisions should have been made (and announced) prior to the election.

And if you waited until the 11th hour -- to stick your ballot in a blue collection box at the far end of a dead end street .... There's some slim chance that your ballot might not be included in the final process. And it's kinda' your fault.

[rocktivity]

39. As long as Biden holds on to NV and AZ

he's got the 270 electoral votes he needs. This could help Biden, ironically, and even if Trump were to win GA, NC, and PA, he'd still come up two electoral votes short.


rocktivity

[soldierant]

40. Dear God, could enough be for Jon?

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Georgia is red but Atlanta not so much.

Hey, I can dream.

(edited to correct candidae name)