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Miami-Dade FL. This look very suspicious! (Original Post) clutterbox1830 Nov 2020 OP
DeSantis worked some magic for his buddy Trump. Sogo Nov 2020 #1
Him or Putin. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2020 #2
Or both of them together. 2naSalit Nov 2020 #35
I don't know about these numbers, but I've said yesterday BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #3
Cuban-American vote. It's been talked about quite a bit. Was alerted to the Dems a couple months ago Roland99 Nov 2020 #4
200k extra Cuban-American votes this time? I don't think so. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2020 #12
Then you don't know Miami. Agschmid Nov 2020 #16
I don't care how well you know the population ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #23
No it's very likely if a targeted effort was made to register and encourage people to vote. Agschmid Nov 2020 #31
Exactly. trump campaign was hitting SE FL hard Roland99 Nov 2020 #33
You really think that many Cuban Americans were sitting around so politically uninvolved before mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #34
Indeed-- how big is that population anyway? LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #45
very likely in Miami ornotna Nov 2020 #52
Okay, well you'd have to be right that it is weird to the point of being a ridiculous mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #59
I agree, and I don't think it was only Miami/Dade... johnnyfins Nov 2020 #53
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #55
i've been saying the cuban vote is bullshit for 2 days now. mopinko Nov 2020 #61
No shit. cwydro Nov 2020 #26
correlation is not causation. we do not know that the new 200k are the Trump 200k Amishman Nov 2020 #40
I haveCuban Americans married into my family Yes they were in favor of trump But not now they all Oppaloopa Nov 2020 #47
They're deathly afraid of socialism... SergeStorms Nov 2020 #56
Maybe this was subterfuge...handy explain to hide the anomaly Dream Girl Nov 2020 #42
Plus vast volumes of bogus conspiracy theories targetted Cuban-Americans in Miami-Dade. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #49
Those Cuban-Americans voted for Trump last time. yardwork Nov 2020 #54
Trump set a precedent for looking at this crap exboyfil Nov 2020 #5
Russians having fun in sunny Florida. nt DURHAM D Nov 2020 #6
Did ya all not see that 27% of the ballots out of So. FL were lost in the mail? Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #7
There's nothing indicating that they were all newly-registered. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #8
Exactly ... although if the turnout were 100% in both cases ... it might be closer mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #20
There's that fraud the Repubs tryin so hard to find. voteearlyvoteoften Nov 2020 #9
Good idea! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #10
Courtesy of ES&S machines and Russia JCMach1 Nov 2020 #11
Bingo! ElementaryPenguin Nov 2020 #37
Miami-Dade and RGV in TX if you want some specific areas JCMach1 Nov 2020 #38
We need to talk about this! LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #46
I keep trying to tell people, these machines are HACKABLE!!! BComplex Nov 2020 #13
Yeah, I completely believe Trumpists stuffed ballot boxes nt coti Nov 2020 #14
Chump appealed to Hispanic prejudices--They're not POC, Hassler Nov 2020 #15
Depends Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #30
That stinks to high heaven. n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #17
in a democratic leaning county no less. there is something very wrong there. very wrong. bullimiami Nov 2020 #18
Not really. PTWB Nov 2020 #21
i lived there for almost 50 years and im telling you that there is no way you are right. bullimiami Nov 2020 #24
I'll take your word for it. PTWB Nov 2020 #27
I grew up with the 2nd generation cuban exiles. I smell something fishy. bullimiami Nov 2020 #32
Not THAT many! Iwasthere Nov 2020 #25
But why would they vote for Hillary and then switch to Trump? pnwmom Nov 2020 #43
Very high Republican turnout and very high enthusiasm with Cubans for Trump PTWB Nov 2020 #19
One day they'll take electronic vote flipping seriously judesedit Nov 2020 #22
It's common practice for tRump to cheat in broad daylight. People are less suspicious that way. ffr Nov 2020 #28
Putin! triron Nov 2020 #29
Was Joe running in South Florida? tavernier Nov 2020 #36
Broward county here: the were a LOT of ads calling jg10003 Nov 2020 #39
Registered Hispanics 276,762 DEM, 309,211 NPA, 322,485 REP Klaralven Nov 2020 #41
Something appears smelly. eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #44
Broken voting machine? bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #48
Didn't someone post on DU a couple months ago, RE: chips being stolen out of voting machines? C Moon Nov 2020 #50
This is as Bent as it gets and wayyyyyy too uncool not to question every single aspect. Ford_Prefect Nov 2020 #51
It's called CHEATING ecstatic Nov 2020 #57
FL always cheats for the GOP. We should work to make them irrelevant in future elections. nt Boogiemack Nov 2020 #58
touch screens, mopinko Nov 2020 #60

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
3. I don't know about these numbers, but I've said yesterday
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:39 PM
Nov 2020

that something doesn't smell right about the Miami Dade numbers compared to Clinton.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
4. Cuban-American vote. It's been talked about quite a bit. Was alerted to the Dems a couple months ago
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:40 PM
Nov 2020

deep-seated problems with Dem leadership and south FL

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
23. I don't care how well you know the population ...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:51 PM
Nov 2020

A shift of this magnitude is statistically pretty damn unlikely.

Esp. when Biden is not all that different from Hillary, policy-wise, and a much less-disliked person in general.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
31. No it's very likely if a targeted effort was made to register and encourage people to vote.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:57 PM
Nov 2020

The FL Republican Party knew what they needed to do to win, and they did it.

I don’t see fraud here.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
34. You really think that many Cuban Americans were sitting around so politically uninvolved before
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:04 PM
Nov 2020

that they didn't bother to register ... and then were suddenly converted into Trump zealots who all showed up on election day?

I'll say it again ... I think this is statistically unlikely (without shenanigans of some kind).

LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
45. Indeed-- how big is that population anyway?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:28 PM
Nov 2020

Maybe 1.8 million in florida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Americans

So let's say 1.2 million in Miami. They found 200,000 more of these people to register and get them to vote for trump? Seems unlikely.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
59. Okay, well you'd have to be right that it is weird to the point of being a ridiculous
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:52 PM
Nov 2020

statistical outlier ... so if you say so ... I have no evidence to the contrary, except to say that such outliers are very rare. Kinda by definition

mopinko

(70,023 posts)
61. i've been saying the cuban vote is bullshit for 2 days now.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:38 PM
Nov 2020

you cant tell me they want trump, who closed cuba, after biden's buddy opened it up.
i will not swallow that shit.

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
40. correlation is not causation. we do not know that the new 200k are the Trump 200k
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:41 PM
Nov 2020

extremely unlikely that there is even that much overlap between the two

Oppaloopa

(866 posts)
47. I haveCuban Americans married into my family Yes they were in favor of trump But not now they all
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:29 PM
Nov 2020

say he is a racist.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
56. They're deathly afraid of socialism...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:43 PM
Nov 2020

but apparently fascism doesn't bother them as much? South Florida Democrats screwed the pooch in this election. They need a whole lot of restructuring in their Democratic organization down there.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
54. Those Cuban-Americans voted for Trump last time.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:37 PM
Nov 2020

According to the text, ALL of the 200,000 newly registered voters in Miami-Dade voted for Trump? That seems very unlikely.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
5. Trump set a precedent for looking at this crap
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:40 PM
Nov 2020

This time there will people who actually know what they are doing.

TwilightZone

(25,430 posts)
8. There's nothing indicating that they were all newly-registered.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:41 PM
Nov 2020

There are some leaps of logic here. One, that everyone who voted for Clinton in 2016 voted for Biden. Two, that the votes Trump picked up since 2016 were all new voters and none of Biden's were.

Neither of those make much sense and are rather unlikely to be true.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
20. Exactly ... although if the turnout were 100% in both cases ... it might be closer
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:49 PM
Nov 2020

to being somewhat true.

Since I'm sure it was not ...

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
11. Courtesy of ES&S machines and Russia
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:44 PM
Nov 2020

Same thing in Texas Rio grande valley.

Now, ask yourself why Trump and his peeps were talking up the Latinx narrative the last few weeks of campaign.

Remember when they did that in 2016 when the narrative was take the rust belt states.

Massive hacking is the untold story of this election.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
37. Bingo!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:13 PM
Nov 2020


This hacking U.S. elections is becoming routine. Our response has been pathetic (blocked by Moscow Mitch).


JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
38. Miami-Dade and RGV in TX if you want some specific areas
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:35 PM
Nov 2020

Instead,.MSM are busy on their polling error and 'shy' Trump voter stories

BComplex

(8,019 posts)
13. I keep trying to tell people, these machines are HACKABLE!!!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:45 PM
Nov 2020

It was shown by the senate intelligence committee report that the RUSSIANS in 2016 found a way into the Florida computers!!!!!

Hassler

(3,369 posts)
15. Chump appealed to Hispanic prejudices--They're not POC,
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:46 PM
Nov 2020

They're white. A tried and true tactic that previously worked with Irish and Italians.

Turin_C3PO

(13,912 posts)
30. Depends
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:56 PM
Nov 2020

Some Hispanics are white, some aren’t. Hispanic identity is made up of a spectrum of colors, cultures, and nationalities.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
21. Not really.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:49 PM
Nov 2020

Cubans love Trump. Many flipped to him. The turnout was very high. Easily explainable by facts we know are true.

bullimiami

(13,076 posts)
24. i lived there for almost 50 years and im telling you that there is no way you are right.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:53 PM
Nov 2020

older cubans. refugee cubans. they remember the bay of pigs.
very republican, never likely to forget.
the next generation. not so much.
the current generation. even less.



 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
27. I'll take your word for it.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:55 PM
Nov 2020

I am definitely not the expert and will defer to your personal experience actually living in Miami.

If something does stink I hope we figure out what.

bullimiami

(13,076 posts)
32. I grew up with the 2nd generation cuban exiles. I smell something fishy.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:58 PM
Nov 2020

i think someone hacked and got greedy.

if there is a way to audit this the Democratic lawyers should get on it.


 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
19. Very high Republican turnout and very high enthusiasm with Cubans for Trump
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:48 PM
Nov 2020

Don’t see conspiracies where reason and logic are the easy answers.

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
22. One day they'll take electronic vote flipping seriously
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:50 PM
Nov 2020

ES&S, Diebold, Sequoia machines all easily hacked. Not sure if I named the machines correctly, but it's very close. We've been forewarned for more than a decade and it's still being ignored. I'm just thankful most people voted on paper ballots this time. More than they could manipulate by voter roll purging, disenfranchisement, gerrymandering, lack of drop boxes, trashing of mail sorting machines, mail delivery holdups, or holding ballots so not delivered to polls by cutoff time. This is a serious problem. Politicians live on another planet and refuse to believe or address it, unfortunately.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
28. It's common practice for tRump to cheat in broad daylight. People are less suspicious that way.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:55 PM
Nov 2020

200,000 new registrations and they all vote for tRump in a heavily democratic county wouldn't seem suspicious to anyone. But if he added a couple hundred, that would!


tavernier

(12,370 posts)
36. Was Joe running in South Florida?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:11 PM
Nov 2020

Funny because I saw a total of two Biden signs in past 6 weeks. But TRUMP signs and billboards and flags were littering the entire bottom of the state for months. I seriously thought I was the only dem here. I called and volunteered to join sign holding get-togethers like in the old days, volunteered to put up street signs. Crickets. Well not exactly... I was told those things don’t matter anymore...the only volunteer stuff available was making annoying phone calls and texts. I figured they didn’t really need me for that because I was getting about 5 texts per hour, and like most ppl, I don’t answer my phone which is silenced, unless I know the caller.

But magats were standing on street corners waving flags and waving to car honks. I guess they didn’t the memo that this no longer works. We just looked like the picture of apathy.

jg10003

(975 posts)
39. Broward county here: the were a LOT of ads calling
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:38 PM
Nov 2020

Joe a socialist and directly equating socialism with tyranny. These ads were very well done (i.e. very scary to Cubans and Venezuelans). Joe had ads but not as many and not as effective. Also HRC spent a lot of time campaigning here in person. The quarantine hurt Joe.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
48. Broken voting machine?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:36 PM
Nov 2020

Both sides register for Trump?

Statistically, intuitively, that is not possible. Not possible at all.

C Moon

(12,210 posts)
50. Didn't someone post on DU a couple months ago, RE: chips being stolen out of voting machines?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:54 PM
Nov 2020

and wasn't that Florida?

Ford_Prefect

(7,873 posts)
51. This is as Bent as it gets and wayyyyyy too uncool not to question every single aspect.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:28 PM
Nov 2020

You're supposed to do this kind of vote theft subtly, as in you shift just enough votes to your candidate that it looks close. You use odd numbers not round ones. You shift a few over to any alternative candidates there are so it looks like a difference of opinion rather than grand theft.

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
57. It's called CHEATING
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:45 PM
Nov 2020

Remember, Florida is one of the only states where trump said it was OK to vote by mail.

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