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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMiami-Dade FL. This look very suspicious!
Link to tweet
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Trump gain 200k votes in Miami Dade compare to 2016! Something is not right.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)2naSalit
(86,368 posts)BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)that something doesn't smell right about the Miami Dade numbers compared to Clinton.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)deep-seated problems with Dem leadership and south FL
NoMoreRepugs
(9,374 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)A shift of this magnitude is statistically pretty damn unlikely.
Esp. when Biden is not all that different from Hillary, policy-wise, and a much less-disliked person in general.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)The FL Republican Party knew what they needed to do to win, and they did it.
I dont see fraud here.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)And also again working to suppress the black vote
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)that they didn't bother to register ... and then were suddenly converted into Trump zealots who all showed up on election day?
I'll say it again ... I think this is statistically unlikely (without shenanigans of some kind).
LymphocyteLover
(5,638 posts)Maybe 1.8 million in florida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Americans
So let's say 1.2 million in Miami. They found 200,000 more of these people to register and get them to vote for trump? Seems unlikely.
ornotna
(10,795 posts)It's a whole different world down there.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)statistical outlier ... so if you say so ... I have no evidence to the contrary, except to say that such outliers are very rare. Kinda by definition
johnnyfins
(812 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)mopinko
(70,023 posts)you cant tell me they want trump, who closed cuba, after biden's buddy opened it up.
i will not swallow that shit.
Spot on.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)extremely unlikely that there is even that much overlap between the two
Oppaloopa
(866 posts)say he is a racist.
SergeStorms
(19,187 posts)but apparently fascism doesn't bother them as much? South Florida Democrats screwed the pooch in this election. They need a whole lot of restructuring in their Democratic organization down there.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,966 posts)yardwork
(61,539 posts)According to the text, ALL of the 200,000 newly registered voters in Miami-Dade voted for Trump? That seems very unlikely.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)This time there will people who actually know what they are doing.
DURHAM D
(32,607 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,715 posts)TwilightZone
(25,430 posts)There are some leaps of logic here. One, that everyone who voted for Clinton in 2016 voted for Biden. Two, that the votes Trump picked up since 2016 were all new voters and none of Biden's were.
Neither of those make much sense and are rather unlikely to be true.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)to being somewhat true.
Since I'm sure it was not ...
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)Recount Florida! 🏝
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Same thing in Texas Rio grande valley.
Now, ask yourself why Trump and his peeps were talking up the Latinx narrative the last few weeks of campaign.
Remember when they did that in 2016 when the narrative was take the rust belt states.
Massive hacking is the untold story of this election.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)This hacking U.S. elections is becoming routine. Our response has been pathetic (blocked by Moscow Mitch).
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Instead,.MSM are busy on their polling error and 'shy' Trump voter stories
LymphocyteLover
(5,638 posts)BComplex
(8,019 posts)It was shown by the senate intelligence committee report that the RUSSIANS in 2016 found a way into the Florida computers!!!!!
coti
(4,612 posts)Hassler
(3,369 posts)They're white. A tried and true tactic that previously worked with Irish and Italians.
Turin_C3PO
(13,912 posts)Some Hispanics are white, some arent. Hispanic identity is made up of a spectrum of colors, cultures, and nationalities.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
bullimiami
(13,076 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Cubans love Trump. Many flipped to him. The turnout was very high. Easily explainable by facts we know are true.
bullimiami
(13,076 posts)older cubans. refugee cubans. they remember the bay of pigs.
very republican, never likely to forget.
the next generation. not so much.
the current generation. even less.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)I am definitely not the expert and will defer to your personal experience actually living in Miami.
If something does stink I hope we figure out what.
bullimiami
(13,076 posts)i think someone hacked and got greedy.
if there is a way to audit this the Democratic lawyers should get on it.
Iwasthere
(3,154 posts)pnwmom
(108,959 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Dont see conspiracies where reason and logic are the easy answers.
judesedit
(4,437 posts)ES&S, Diebold, Sequoia machines all easily hacked. Not sure if I named the machines correctly, but it's very close. We've been forewarned for more than a decade and it's still being ignored. I'm just thankful most people voted on paper ballots this time. More than they could manipulate by voter roll purging, disenfranchisement, gerrymandering, lack of drop boxes, trashing of mail sorting machines, mail delivery holdups, or holding ballots so not delivered to polls by cutoff time. This is a serious problem. Politicians live on another planet and refuse to believe or address it, unfortunately.
ffr
(22,665 posts)200,000 new registrations and they all vote for tRump in a heavily democratic county wouldn't seem suspicious to anyone. But if he added a couple hundred, that would!
Link to tweet
triron
(21,984 posts)tavernier
(12,370 posts)Funny because I saw a total of two Biden signs in past 6 weeks. But TRUMP signs and billboards and flags were littering the entire bottom of the state for months. I seriously thought I was the only dem here. I called and volunteered to join sign holding get-togethers like in the old days, volunteered to put up street signs. Crickets. Well not exactly... I was told those things dont matter anymore...the only volunteer stuff available was making annoying phone calls and texts. I figured they didnt really need me for that because I was getting about 5 texts per hour, and like most ppl, I dont answer my phone which is silenced, unless I know the caller.
But magats were standing on street corners waving flags and waving to car honks. I guess they didnt the memo that this no longer works. We just looked like the picture of apathy.
jg10003
(975 posts)Joe a socialist and directly equating socialism with tyranny. These ads were very well done (i.e. very scary to Cubans and Venezuelans). Joe had ads but not as many and not as effective. Also HRC spent a lot of time campaigning here in person. The quarantine hurt Joe.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Totals are 636,141 DEM, 485,338 NPA, 433,236 REP
https://www.miamidade.gov/elections/library/reports/voter-registration-statistics-cumulative.pdf
sprinkleeninow
(20,218 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,064 posts)Both sides register for Trump?
Statistically, intuitively, that is not possible. Not possible at all.
C Moon
(12,210 posts)and wasn't that Florida?
Ford_Prefect
(7,873 posts)You're supposed to do this kind of vote theft subtly, as in you shift just enough votes to your candidate that it looks close. You use odd numbers not round ones. You shift a few over to any alternative candidates there are so it looks like a difference of opinion rather than grand theft.
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)Remember, Florida is one of the only states where trump said it was OK to vote by mail.
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)mopinko
(70,023 posts)paper ballots, not vapor ballots.