This was Trump's plan all along

[DonaldsRump]

1) Sabotage the mail-in votes by dismantling the USPS
2) Having states force the mail-in ballots not to be counted until everything else was counted to give the illusion Trump was ahead
3) This gave time for Trump to demonstrate on Election Night he was winning massively
4) Declare victory on Election Night to give his supporters the belief that he was the victor
5) Litigate the hell out of any states he might lose
6) Try to reach the US Supreme Court and bank on his appointees giving him the Presidency
7) Incite his supporters to violence if all else fails

Do not, for a moment, think that there is no rhyme or reason to what he is doing.

[pandr32]

1. Sounds about right

[forgotmylogin]

33. I think this is also the tantrum he's been saving up when he expected to lose in 2016.

Get lots of media coverage for fraud, become the darling of right-wing television.

[needledriver]

51. There is no rhyme or reason to what he is doing.

He is spraying shit in every direction, hoping some will stick to the wall.

[consider_this]

2. we are at #7

he is in alternate reality, and his rubes believe this utter shite.

[Mike 03]

6. We are at #7.

There's no doubt about it.

[SheltieLover]

3. Absolutely. The putin plam.

I really wish an intel agency could lock him up immediately.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

12. Yep.

I honestly won't be surprised to see Trump in Russia soon.

One of their hats will be an improvement over that monstrosity on his head, anyway.

[SheltieLover]

41. Ikr!

the hat over his yak fur piece.

[Initech]

37. Also the Joker's plan!

[Thekaspervote]

4. His law suits are all being thrown out. One twitter post said the judge took less than 5 minutes

To rule and told them to leave

[Newest Reality]

5. Good list!

Oh, I don't think there is no rhyme or reason to what he is doing.

His devious, demented mind was always crafting something dastardly. This is the one thing he is very good at and he has been practicing all of his life.

[Klaralven]

7. You forgot "Have legislators appoint electors in states he lost".

[TlalocW]

8. I think some of it was mitigated

When Joe came out on election night before Trump did, was positive, talked about the importance of voting and counting every vote, how it was in the people's hands, etc. It really provided a contrast to the Circus Peanut later on and up to today.

TlalocW

[wackadoo wabbit]

28. "Circus peanut." That's excellent! It works on so many levels

Circus peanuts are orange — same color as his makeup
Peanuts are small — same as his hands and his "mushroom"
Circuses have clowns — do I even need to explain this?

This is definitely now my favorite nickname for him.

[TlalocW]

30. I've been calling him

Presi-duh-nt Circus Peanut McSuperspreader for a few months now.

TlalocW

[LoveMyCali]

47. And also

Circus Peanuts are the worst candy ever!

[TlalocW]

49. They are

There was a kid in my dorms in college that just had something wrong with him, and part of it was his favorite candy was Circus Peanuts...

TlalocW

[Windy City Charlie]

9. Absolutely

I could see what the plan was during that first debate in late September. His plan was to play victim through the whole process the entire time and incite his supporters to create chaos.

[TheBlackAdder]

10. He wanted R's to vote in-person & D's to mail in. Gives him high initial #s then invalidate mail-ins

[roamer65]

11. So far it's failing.

The states are counting the votes.

[yellowcanine]

13. Think you are right. We need a special counsel to investigate DeJoy and Trump for mail fraud.

[jcgoldie]

14. Sure

The problem is hes about to lose everywhere and in PA by ALOT... the plan wont work in that circumstance never get off the ground

[wiggs]

15. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. At least wrt the GOP. nt

[spanone]

16. Jason Miller said as much just before the election...

he said (paraphrasing) trump will be ahead on election night then when the mail-ballots come in the democrats will steal it back from him

[bucolic_frolic]

17. Russian-puppet state

undermining democratic norms, laws, and rules.

[yardwork]

18. His plan failed, as he has not been "winning massively."

He's been trailing since Election Day. His plan failed.

[DonaldsRump]

21. Look at the numbers on Election Night when he gave his first unhinged speech

He was massively ahead everywhere. This was his gaslighting strategy: to give the illusion of victory to his cult.

[Evolve Dammit]

19. Putin playbook for 4 years

[KewlKat]

20. Yes...he's been telling us for months.

[world wide wally]

22. Exactly, but he telegraphed it all and lost the element of surprise so everyone

was ready for it.

[Initech]

23. He has no plan to lead, only chaos and corruption.

[Mr.Bill]

24. It's not going to work. n/t

[melody]

25. Putin never expected Trump to be elected

Neither did Trump. Trump had the net dropped on him.

Trump’s last desperate act to stay out of prison for four years, is all this is.

[sagetea]

26. As my Papa would say...

...yup.


sage

[warmfeet]

27. Indeed.

He has been telegraphing this plan for many months.

Nonetheless, he is, and always will be, a loser.

Now, for phase 2:

Lock him, his family, his minions and cronies the fuck up!

Phase 2 will commence now.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the right does not have exclusive access to violent action. I know they do no realize this, but many on the left are fully capable of acting in defense of violence. Nuff said.

[wnylib]

29. Trump went on air tonight around

6:30 pm EST. He announced that if you count the "legal votes" he won easily. Only when you count the "illegal votes" does Biden win. Then he said that he was protecting the people's rights and choice and would not allow Biden to steal the election.

He rambled on about the lawsuits, claimed that he had already won a big one, and said that the media was conspiring to prevent the people from knowing the truth about his big win.

NPR cut into his speech around that time to do fact checking. They denounced his claims as false and went back to regular programming.

My take is this. 1) Trump knows he is losing and won't win his court court cases, even if they are not thrown out. He is trying to save face by claiming that he won but
a conspiracy gave the election to Biden. 2) He wants to undercut the legitimacy of the Biden administration before Biden is even sworn in. (That might even be an order given to him by Putin.)

One other outside possibility occurs to me, but how could he think it would succeed? He might be setting the stage for his thug militias to break out in violence to "save the election and democracy." With the election so close, he might be counting on a large part of the country to be supportive of attempts to stop Biden.

[Ford_Prefect]

35. The local Boogaloo Bois are struttin' N shturmin' on the street but they look very unhappy.

Saw them at the corner of First and Main with their maga camo gear and their Q-anon flags. They don't look nearly as confident as 2 weeks ago and no-one honked or waved to them while I sat at the light. Mr. Kitty was in the back seat on his way back from the vet and was also unimpressed. It was strange to see them there since that's the spot we have been using for the last 4 years to cry foul on the orange menace, his works and his minions.

I wonder how they'll react when no-one else joins in on the corner tomorrow morning, or whenever the ref finally counts to ten and calls the fight over.

[wnylib]

39. Where are you? I'm in a small city where

we haven't seen any Boogaloo action or other thugs, although I know there are some RW groups in the rural areas around here.

[Delmette2.0]

42. I watched the first few minutes.

He was reading everything!! None of this is his plan or any of his understanding of how this all works. He has a lot of people ( we all know about the best people) feeding this to him. All he has to do is read the script and rant some more over the points he actually remembers.

[wnylib]

48. Maybe he has marching orders to

discredit Biden's administration before it gets started, since he (Trump) isn't able to pull off a win.

[Delmette2.0]

52. There is no difference.

None of that was originally from him. He copies or takes credit for other people's work, thoughts or suggestions.

[tiredtoo]

31. Based on his last two appearances

I would think he is working on a mental disability plea when he goes to court.

[JohnnyRingo]

32. I think everything hinged on him being ahead at the end of the day

he expected his voters to show up en mass during regular hours on election day giving him a lead. Then he would stop Biden votes from being counted. He was never ahead on election day and he couldn't stop counting only Biden votes.

I really believe that's why Georgia stopped counting Tuesday night and went home while Trump was ahead. Just like in baseball, if it rains after the fifth inning, whoever is ahead wins. I'm sure republicans in Georgia thought Trump would stop their count before morning.

[yellowdogintexas]

46. Would Trumb even be able to stop a state from counting votes?

He certainly thinks he can...

[JohnnyRingo]

53. And only in states where he's ahead.

Like a spoiled little kid, the galaxy swirls around him and he wants everything to only favor him.

[FakeNoose]

34. Forget #6 - SCOTUS will not play his game

I don't think he's getting much litigation action either - #5 is fizzling.
So he's all out of strategies, it's just #7 is all that's left.

He can always start a war with somebody. Iran maybe? I don't know.
Chump is just about of tricks.

[Skittles]

36. he is incredulous his plan isn't working

and he is facing his worst nightmare: he is a LOSER and the ENTIRE WORLD knows it

[DonaldsRump]

38. Bingo!

[musclecar6]

40. You know

He is crazy.

[maryellen99]

43. I just hope there is a patriot willing to disobey a launch order nt

[yellowdogintexas]

44. #45 didn't have the states force the delayed mail-in counts

those rules are state law.and were already in place. Different states have different rules.

Down here our ballot board starts screening about 15 days ahead of Election Day, and they are all ready to be scanned on Election Day. We were deluged with mail ins, and they are still counting; they don't really need to for outcome purposes but every vote will be counted.

Didn't these states go to court to try to get the state elections code changed to start counting aheada of time and they lost the case?

[DonaldsRump]

45. I think the state legislatures in PA, WI, and MI did indeed do this

Not all states, but key swing states.

[anamnua]

50. Spot on.

He has been thinking things through and planning this for months.

[ancianita]

54. Seriously, it wasn't Trump's plan. As Jay Inslee has said, Trump couldn't plan a two car funeral.

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This was a AI set of decision options. Whose AI is a secret.
Trump wouldn't know to enlist AI, but knows those who would.

The AI delivers the options to Trump. He's used them all, sending instructions to cabinet heads, lawyers, operatives and PR people who organize court suits, street drama and messaging that attacks Democrats of the very things he and his people caught doing.

Notice that for every serious TV appearance he makes, he reads a script.

[DonaldsRump]

55. Trump is not dumb

After listening to the Woodward tapes, he went into the pandemic with FULL knowledge about its consequences. Listen to him: he is not stupid.

I have no idea who is feeding Trump this plan, but he knows with full understanding everything he does.

[ancianita]

56. Not saying that.

To your last point, we both agree. One need not be dumb to be stupid. On one level, he knew he couldn't rely on himself to even run a campaign, nevermind a pandemic response, and so my AI theory.

I find it a sign of stupidity, not dumbness, that a person with a $400,000,000 inheritance would choose the path of gamblers, mobsters and state level money launderers and present himself to the gullible as a leader, then believe his own hype.

Now that we've seen that the gullible are not dumb or ignorant, they fall into the unfixable stupid zone, imo.

May that 21% never again find a champion or participate in politics.