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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:14 PM Nov 2020

In 2000, after losing to Bush, Al Gore had to oversee the certification of the election...

This is a leader.

Gore was robbed. We knew it. America knew it. He knew it. But he put country over ambition and conceded.

Then he stood overseeing the certification of the election he lost due to the Supreme Court stopping a recount in Florida.

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In 2000, after losing to Bush, Al Gore had to oversee the certification of the election... (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 OP
And what fucking good did it do our country??? 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #1
Then don't complain about Trump doing it now. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #2
???? False equivalency. 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #4
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #10
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #13
What should he have done? NYC Liberal Nov 2020 #3
He should never have conceded. It would have been a stand for democracy. 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #6
Ok. He doesn't concede. The Electoral College meets and votes. NYC Liberal Nov 2020 #7
There was nothing he could do. People lied and claimed he was just like Bush JI7 Nov 2020 #12
It wouldn't have done any good... regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #18
I have to agree with you. llmart Nov 2020 #5
He did fight though. All the way to the Supreme Court. NYC Liberal Nov 2020 #11
Yes, I know that but... llmart Nov 2020 #15
I admired him when he did it Nictuku Nov 2020 #8
There was nothing he could do then. The ones that lied about him being the same as Bush JI7 Nov 2020 #14
He did not have the luxury of hindsight that we have now. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #16
5-4 was the start of all of this, IMO. ffr Nov 2020 #9
I disagreed then and I disagreed now. The media and the Democratic Party enough Nov 2020 #17
And we still have Stone, Rove and Manafort to screw up the country and world nt lostnfound Nov 2020 #19

58Sunliner

(4,379 posts)
1. And what fucking good did it do our country???
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:17 PM
Nov 2020

What about his responsibility to his voters and the thousands that worked on his campaign?? He did not put country over ambition. Fuck that, with all due respect.

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58Sunliner

(4,379 posts)
6. He should never have conceded. It would have been a stand for democracy.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:21 PM
Nov 2020

How many people did Bush and Cheney kill??

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
7. Ok. He doesn't concede. The Electoral College meets and votes.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:21 PM
Nov 2020

Congress meets to certify. What does he do?

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
18. It wouldn't have done any good...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:30 PM
Nov 2020

...the election would have just gone to the House, which was under Republican control, and they would have certified Dubya as the winner anyway.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
5. I have to agree with you.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:20 PM
Nov 2020

I remember thinking that his concession speech was civil and decent under the circumstances. I know lots of Dems were (and still are apparently) angry that he didn't fight, but it's easy to say that in hindsight. We had seen nothing like that in our lifetimes and neither had he.

He's also gone on to do an awful lot of good in the environmental sphere.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
15. Yes, I know that but...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:24 PM
Nov 2020

they did stop counting the votes and that's what many were angry about. The country was clamoring for a resolution quickly.

Nictuku

(3,601 posts)
8. I admired him when he did it
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:22 PM
Nov 2020

.... but now, to think of where our country could be had he not been cheated by a Supreme Court Decision interfering with a State's election procedures.... (sigh) Climate change.... we might actually be carbon free by now.

In retrospect, I still admire him for putting country above ambition, but in retrospect, did he really? With Bush we got the Iraq war, and we will never know if he would have taken the PDB that warned of the attack more seriously than Bush did, and then what would the middle east look like today in terms of our relations?

JI7

(89,244 posts)
14. There was nothing he could do then. The ones that lied about him being the same as Bush
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:24 PM
Nov 2020

were the problem.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,105 posts)
16. He did not have the luxury of hindsight that we have now.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:24 PM
Nov 2020

Had he known that a war criminal would rise from his concession, I'm sure he would have gone down fighting.

ffr

(22,668 posts)
9. 5-4 was the start of all of this, IMO.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:22 PM
Nov 2020

Democrats are locked into the way it was. Rs have moved on to any adversary willing to help them, it's okay with them.

enough

(13,256 posts)
17. I disagreed then and I disagreed now. The media and the Democratic Party
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:30 PM
Nov 2020

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refused to acknowledge what was happening. They treated that travesty as if it was politics as usual. The Democrats actually told their members to be patient and not object.

This was a massive defeat for democracy in our country.

We now have three justices on the Supreme Court of the United States who participated in the Republican operations in Florida to make this happen: Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett.

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