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46,257: Biden's lead in AZ now (Original Post) marybourg Nov 2020 OP
It looks like the AP and Fox were very wrong to call Arizona so early. Goodheart Nov 2020 #1
We've been saying that since about 5 seconds after they called it. PTWB Nov 2020 #5
Calling a state doesn't mean anything. LisaL Nov 2020 #6
It doesn't mean anything which is why it was stupid to do. PTWB Nov 2020 #8
Yes, it was stupid. LisaL Nov 2020 #28
I agree. They called it too early. It was too many votes still left to count In It to Win It Nov 2020 #19
I was surprised they called AZ so early too liberal_mama Nov 2020 #37
Sick to my stomach SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #2
Yeah, it dropped from 68,390 this morning Farmgirl1961 Nov 2020 #3
These are from an otherwise purple / blue county Amishman Nov 2020 #26
Nate Silver says Trump fell slightly short of his target. BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #4
Guess that's good triron Nov 2020 #13
That's what I thought just trying to do the math in my head Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #18
Yeah crossing my fingers this is the start of a trend back to Biden BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #42
Mahalo.. so much Cha Nov 2020 #47
Wolf just said it's still possible Trump would win the election Catherine Vincent Nov 2020 #7
LOL. DarthDem Nov 2020 #10
Please Show Me How Drumpf's Probability Is Zero sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #15
Well, Philly alone should get PA now mvd Nov 2020 #21
If It's Truly 99% In PA sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #30
The math says it is very high mvd Nov 2020 #35
Wolf should have clarified, perhaps "small and very remote chance" Iwasthere Nov 2020 #23
It's called NV and PA Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #25
Don't need NV if he gets PA. 253 without AZ + 20 273. Woo hoo! yellowcanine Nov 2020 #40
They've Been Saying That All Along sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #11
They're needling him for his absurd statement about winning PA and not counting votes. joshcryer Nov 2020 #14
Unfortunately, I think it's possible too. Would still bet on Biden, but Hoyt Nov 2020 #16
Thank You sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #20
Sure, and it is also equally possible trump will lose Arizona still_one Nov 2020 #17
Doesn't Look Like AZ May Be Relevant Thankfully sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #9
The question is how many votes remain? still_one Nov 2020 #12
That's the big unknown. marybourg Nov 2020 #22
Thanks still_one Nov 2020 #24
I'm listening to KTAR radio in Phoenix now. Their "experts" say tRump needs StarryNite Nov 2020 #27
That's good to know about Pima! Thanx. marybourg Nov 2020 #29
Last night somebody said there are still votes to be counted in Coconino StarryNite Nov 2020 #36
Coconino is bluer than Maricopa, I think. marybourg Nov 2020 #46
I think Biden/Harris will pull it out . . Iliyah Nov 2020 #31
I think so too. marybourg Nov 2020 #33
I Think AZ Will Quickly Become Gravy sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #32
Nothing wrong with a little gravy. marybourg Nov 2020 #34
We're still ok there. Need only 43% of remaining votes Roland99 Nov 2020 #38
Still have 204,00 votes to be counted in Maricopa. sinkingfeeling Nov 2020 #39
Maricopa is "lumpy", having only recently become purple. marybourg Nov 2020 #41
True. I live in a red part of Maricopa County. StarryNite Nov 2020 #44
Me too. Far west valley. marybourg Nov 2020 #45
155,000 votes in the rest of the state. StarryNite Nov 2020 #43
 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
5. We've been saying that since about 5 seconds after they called it.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:08 PM
Nov 2020

Biden MIGHT win AZ. It may even still lean Biden - barely - but calling it so early before the votes were counted was totally irresponsible.

Amishman

(5,553 posts)
26. These are from an otherwise purple / blue county
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:19 PM
Nov 2020

These sets happen to be slanted red.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Jamal___James/status/1324217105433030656

There is reason to believe that the batches going forward will be more mixed or even blue.

We apparently are not into the ~175k election day dropoffs yet. Those are expected to be more independents and younger.

This would also fit better with the way the 2018 Senate race went significantly blue in the last 200k votes. The difference between 2018's blue shift and thus current red shift has been annoying and confusing me.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
18. That's what I thought just trying to do the math in my head
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:13 PM
Nov 2020

And it just takes a batch that's 50-50 or that Biden gains slightly and Trump's threshold goes up.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
15. Please Show Me How Drumpf's Probability Is Zero
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:12 PM
Nov 2020

If it's not zero, then he still has a chance to win the election.

Just because a baseball team has a 15 run lead, does not mean they won until the last out of the game.

mvd

(65,157 posts)
21. Well, Philly alone should get PA now
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:16 PM
Nov 2020

I’d say PA is 99% Biden win, so Dump may be 1% or less to win the election if you consider the other states. Only more than that if cheating is allowed, which I doubt. People are tired of Dump’s behavior.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
30. If It's Truly 99% In PA
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:22 PM
Nov 2020

One of the networks will call it soon.

I don't think it's 99%. Probably still in the 80's. Just my opinion.

Not saying it won't rise, and rise fast, but you know what they say about counting chickens before they hatch.

mvd

(65,157 posts)
35. The math says it is very high
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:26 PM
Nov 2020

I stand by my figure.

The networks want to call it but are really careful. If Philly doesn’t finish him off, Allegheny or Delaware or another outstanding county will.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
11. They've Been Saying That All Along
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:11 PM
Nov 2020

IT IS TRUE!

Not likely, but true. Otherwise they would have declared Biden the winner.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
14. They're needling him for his absurd statement about winning PA and not counting votes.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:12 PM
Nov 2020

They know he's tuning in.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Unfortunately, I think it's possible too. Would still bet on Biden, but
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:12 PM
Nov 2020

until it’s in the bag we better be prepared.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
20. Thank You
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:15 PM
Nov 2020

I won't feel 100% comfortable until January 20, but will feel overwhelming relief when Biden is declared the winner.

marybourg

(12,584 posts)
22. That's the big unknown.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:16 PM
Nov 2020

Before this dump, they’d been saying ~ 430,000 since Wed., never getting less. Now someone just said 440,000. I don’t know what to make of these #s.

StarryNite

(9,434 posts)
27. I'm listening to KTAR radio in Phoenix now. Their "experts" say tRump needs
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:21 PM
Nov 2020

to average 59% of the overall votes in AZ to overtake Biden. In that last drop tRump got 57%.

Pima County hasn't come in yet.

StarryNite

(9,434 posts)
36. Last night somebody said there are still votes to be counted in Coconino
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:27 PM
Nov 2020

County, which is a blue county. I don't know what the hold up is in Pima and Coconino Counties.

marybourg

(12,584 posts)
34. Nothing wrong with a little gravy.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:26 PM
Nov 2020

Especially with an insane, traitorous fascist currently occupying the WH.

sinkingfeeling

(51,436 posts)
39. Still have 204,00 votes to be counted in Maricopa.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:29 PM
Nov 2020

Alicia Parlapiano, in Washington 2m ago

Maricopa County will post its next report Friday at 11 a.m. ET. Officials there say they have 204,000 more early ballots to process, and a smaller number of provisional and other ballots. See Arizona results ›

marybourg

(12,584 posts)
41. Maricopa is "lumpy", having only recently become purple.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:36 PM
Nov 2020

We can’t count on it yielding Biden votes. Depending on where in Maricopa County, it might or might not.

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