an old good thread from DU about suicide in narcissists

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"Narcissists never commit suicide"
Wrong. Especially when you're talking about "older adults."

There is a popular belief that “Narcissists rarely
commit suicide. When a Narcissist threatens to do this,
it’s generally as a means of manipulation” (Saeed
2014). However, studies suggest that NPD is associated
with suicidal behavior (Stone 1989, Links et al. 2003,
Heisel et al. 2007). For example, a 15-year follow up
study of patients admitted to a psychiatric hospital in
New York showed that patients with NPD or narcissistic
traits were significantly more likely to die from suicide
compared to individuals without NPD or narcissistic
traits (Stone 1989). Another study found that depressed
older adults with narcissistic personalities were at
increased suicide risk (Heisel et al. 2007). It has been
observed that patients with NPD can be at elevated
suicide risk not only during periods when they are
depressed but also during periods when they are not
suffering from depression (Ronningstam & Maltsberger
1998).


Study here: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/062a/7c41518fecf0e806309e722ecb1dba016ef0.pdf

Another case study:

Eleven Deaths of Mr. K.—Contributing Factors to
Suicide in Narcissistic Personalities
The objective of this paper is to discuss and illuminate the problem of abrupt suicide in relatively well-functioning individuals without a major DSM-IV mental illness. A case of a man diagnosed with narcissistic personality, who first allegedly
staged a suicide attempt and later, without overt warning, killed himself in the context of financial losses and divorce, will be discussed. The paper addresses how and
why a life event can generate an internal subjective experience that evokes a sudden
deadly self-attack. Discussion of eleven explanatory hypotheses serves to further
the understanding of these seemingly inexplicable events. We conclude that additional studies are necessary, especially of the interconnected interaction between
life event, psychological functioning, and neurobiological correlates to expand
understanding and develop proactive treatment strategies.


https://depts.washington.edu/psyclerk/secure/articles/eleven-deaths-narcissist.pdf

There's a lot more. I just googled "Do narcissists commit suicide" and up come the studies. I used to believe this too until I began reading books about Narcissism. There's a very dangerous time for a narcissist: When he runs out of "narcissistic supply"--that is, the people he depends upon to reflect back his power to him.

Imagine a cult leader without followers. Think of a narcissist you know or knew. He needed his victims or he completely lost his purpose in life.

EDIT: In some situations, you could even argue that suicide is the ultimate narcissistic act, because it denies the victims any closure.

[smirkymonkey]

1. I really wish they would.

The world would be a much better place.

[kurtcagle]

2. I've thought that he might very well be at risk of suicide

should he lose the election. Think about what he's facing - the potential for massive ridicule followed by a dwindling supply of fawning sycophants, financial ruin, potential imprisonment, loss of freedom, divorce, really everything that he ever worked for (what there was of it) gone. It's times like that which can test even healthy people, and Trump is not healthy. The possibility of stroke or heart attack is also not out of the question - he's had covid, he was visibly weakening at his campaign stops, and right now the only thing that is keeping him going is the faint possibility that he might still be able to win.

The end won't happen immediately. It'll happen a couple of months from now, when the tension that he's been under for more than four years finally is released, and his body will essentially suffer systemic shock.

The man should never have run for president. He could have lived comfortably in New York, continuing to make dubious business deals and continuing to be an asshole, or he could have gone the route of Limbaugh or Carlson), becoming yet another shock jock radio host on Fox. Instead, he ruined everything he touched and left it to others to clean up afterwards. I personally will not mourn him.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

3. I would

Be so happy if trump kills himself. That way I will never hear his ugly voice or see his bloated orange face. A big slimy piece of shit scraped off this planet.

I would be happy if every narcissist that followed that monster kills themself.

I wish every narcissist on Earth,to kill themselves.

Imagine a world without narcissism,sociopathy or authoritarianism.