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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMorning Joe and gang are talking how Democrats lost and how
they are going to lose in 2022. They failed to win state races that will hurt them on redistricting.
yada yada yada
XanaDUer2
(10,489 posts)not sure what to think, but it's a buzzkill
doc03
(35,293 posts)thing and socialism is poison. But Joe Biden isn't going to let them tell him what to do.
Nimble_Idea
(1,803 posts)sometimes I feel like I am reading FReeperville.
doc03
(35,293 posts)talking point.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Black voters put Biden over the edge in Wisconsin, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. Most black voters support defunding the police.
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The slogan is unpopular with most demographic groups, too, with two notable exceptions: Black Americans and Democrats. In the two polls where results were broken down by race, Black respondents said they supported defunding the police by an average of 45 percent to 28 percent, while white respondents opposed it by an average of 61 percent to 23 percent. This is in line with other polls that have consistently shown that white people mostly see police in a favorable light, while Black people are likelier to have experienced mistreatment at officers hands and take the problem of police violence seriously. So what were seeing here may be another reflection of Black and white Americans different experiences with police.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-like-the-ideas-behind-defunding-the-police-more-than-the-slogan-itself/
doc03
(35,293 posts)make political sense, that won't get votes from the 61% of whites that oppose it.
Celerity
(43,058 posts)halting of the overall rightward march in the crib.
L.Pharmstrong
(152 posts)Or have a reasonable discourse of ways to address the issues that Morning Joe raises? They are right. We face some issues regarding branding of the party and the terms we select to frame the areas of debate. We also have to constructively find ways to deal with the Republican effort to rig the census, gerrymander and preserve power.
Reading DU a week ago, you would have thought that Biden would have won by a landslide and Trump would not have received a single electoral vote. Thats what happens when you censor all of the opinions and facts you dont like as right-wing talking points. And that has worked out so well for us at DU. This is a very dumb and antidemocratic rule, which is pretty ironic.
bdamomma
(63,790 posts)The media wants to live in a dictatorship??? WTF
mzmolly
(50,978 posts)We shouldn't need a book to explain 'it doesn't really mean defund...'
Yep. Joe will continue to distance himself from nonsense.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)that simple.
qdouble
(891 posts)Not to mention that Joe being a Republican will always find a way to blame democrats for something.
mindem
(1,580 posts)joe shrieking about this being a resounding defeat for the democrats. On and on and on. Switched over to cnn.
BannonsLiver
(16,288 posts)Bahahahahahaha major fail by MSNBC. Youre gonna have the third stringers on the field when the ball game is decided? Glad Im watching CNN. Joe and Mika are imbeciles.
Ishoutandscream2
(6,660 posts)So, essentially, we can't work for "nice things", like universal health care, mandatory paid six weeks vacation, long term paid maternity leave, etc. etc. Let's just be centrist, safe, and not move forward. It was a sad commentary.
BannonsLiver
(16,288 posts)Fuckface Joe missed the part where the 15 dollar minimum wage passed overwhelmingly in his home state. These people just mail it in every morning. Theyre hacks. Which is why theyre on at 4 am.
Celerity
(43,058 posts)wcast
(595 posts)All about the radical left and how Biden needs to govern from the center. Republicans are always pushing hard right with policies most Americans don't like but the media never tell them to move to the center.
Georgia is not close because of the center it is close because Atlanta and other diverse areas turned out.
Nimble_Idea
(1,803 posts)Conservative white racists in denial, want Liberal and Black America to be quiet to go away about their issues.
bdamomma
(63,790 posts)Joe.
Calling us the radical left????? That's as wrong as calling us socialists.
I think everyone needs a lesson in civics. Socialism??? Yeah the republicans practice that its called reserve socialism they give to themselves, fuck everyone else.
Yeehah
(4,566 posts)What would we do without the telescreen updates!
still_one
(92,060 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)We be fools to do so
moondust
(19,956 posts)Just long enough to hear him trot out the old SOCIALISM!!!! smear.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)a lot of his voters will stay home in 22.
spanone
(135,777 posts)brooklynite
(94,299 posts)brooklynite
(94,299 posts)Not gaining State Leg seats is a major problem.
doc03
(35,293 posts)are telling us how we f----d up. That is going to be the media from here on I guess making a
meme that the left is controlling Biden.
brooklynite
(94,299 posts)Not enough to win us any additional Senate, House or State Leg seats,
Go back and look at the anger express in the Democratic House Caucus call yesterday.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)DU loves Kelly but will be shocked to see him reach across the aisle. Kelly was a registered Independent on the day Gabby was shot. Sinema's voting record is more moderate than Manchin's
Joe didn't diss AOC but simply said she only represents her district.
The closing ads against Kelly were all based on claims of Kelly being a socialist which would have worked with a less liked candidate.
Blue state Democrats on DU are out of touch with how difficult it is to win in red/purple states.
We aren't going to expand the party if we let the extreme part of the party to brand the entire party.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)These phrases are turnoffs for voters in those areas. If you have to argue with voters about what words mean, you are losing.
We cant be saddled with these extreme phrases. They are political losers.
Maru Kitteh
(28,313 posts)that skeevy troll and his troll barbie wife. If you stop watching them, they will go away.
ananda
(28,831 posts)The GOP expanded its state legislature map,
which means that they can redistrict.
Therefore, it's very likely that the GOP will
win the House in 2022.
helpisontheway
(5,004 posts)with his comments. All of a sudden he is praising Sanders and Warren for working hard to help Biden. He is saying that Biden will need to figure out a way to keep that coalition together and appeal to a broader base. Probably scared his ratings were about to crash. 😂
Mr. Sparkle
(2,927 posts)Look at Georgia as an example , in the senate the repug and the libertarian have over 200,000 more votes than Ossoff while Joe currently has a 1000 points lead.