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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf the courts actually overturn the results of this election, this will no longer be my country
How can their argument to overturn the election even stand when you have Republican wins in Maine, Iowa, and South Carolina?
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)still_one
(92,189 posts)and push the lie that the election is illegitimate. It doesnt make sense because there were enough republicans in other races who won, but this is extremely irresponsible and dangerous
Cirque du So-What
(25,936 posts)It may look the same, but itd be a fundamentally different place.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...well have outright civil war.
yardwork
(61,599 posts)In 2000 the poor design of ballots in south Florida created questions about how the vote counts were tallied, leading to intervention by the courts and ultimately giving the Supreme Court an excuse to stop the counting.
There's no such issue now. The laughable conspiracy theory about sharpie pens in AZ was quickly refuted by the state's own attorney general, who is a Republican. Trump's efforts to intervene with courts in PA and MI were immediately thrown out.
Trump can tweet that there is voter fraud but unless he has some kind of evidence there's no standing for courts to intervene.
So far, all the cheating seems to be on his side, with voter suppression efforts.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)still_one
(92,189 posts)to declare the election illegitimate
They are assembling their lawyers right now in Virginia, at least that is what is being reported in CNN, along with sending out email to their supporters
Santorum on CNN is pushing this bullshit based on so-called videos on the internet, which we all know are probably manipulated
They are playing with fire, and trying to cause civil unrest
In 2016 it was clear trump was a racist, sexist, and bigot, and many dismissed it.
They are telling us their game plan, and we better not dismiss it
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)His one "win" was allowing observers to sit four feet closer to vote counters.
Yeah, sounds like they're about to overturn the entire election. Come on....
still_one
(92,189 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Jan. That is how our system works. Still. I will admit we dodged a bullet though. 4 more years of Trump and I am not sure I could say that. But the best thing for us to do now is to follow Joe Biden's lead of lowering the temperature level of political discourse and not engage in idle speculation about what the SCOTUS might or might not do. That is why I say just stop. You are not helping.
still_one
(92,189 posts)it is going to be very difficult for that "temperature" to be brought down
It will be the WH that will be inciting this
As you said Biden will be trying to reach out and engaging with republicans in Congress, and we will see how that goes, but when you see Graham, Cruz, Kevin McCarthy and other major republicans going out on the airwaves pushing the administration lie of the election illegitimacy, it will be difficult because Pandora's box has already been opened
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)race is called.
still_one
(92,189 posts)illegitimate votes, without any evidence
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214471871
Again I am not disagreeing with your sentiment, but I am not sure there are enough "reasonable" congressional republicans who will come forward
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)hope so. We need him to help rein in Trump during the transition. And his majority is on the line with the 2 specials in GA. So he will do it for pragmatic reasons if not for ethical ones, which we know are pretty much nonexistent. Angry Biden voters in GA can take away his majority now.
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)This is what republicans are saying!
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)That was always a Trump pipe dream. Why we bought into it and wasted so much time on it, I'll never understand.
John Roberts even tried to warn him. He made a very pointed, public statement that courts don't determine election rules or laws; state legislatures do. That was obviously targeted at Trump.
still_one
(92,189 posts)reaching out to republicans in congress to declare the election illegitimate, along with sending email to his supporters pushing that lie. They are also reporting that trump's legal team is assembling in Virgina to argue this
There is no doubt they are trying to cause civil unrest, and that presents some extremely dangerous prospects