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blitzen

(4,572 posts) Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:11 AM Nov 2020

No, CNN, Trump is not a "political force," he's a Fascist. n/t

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No, CNN, Trump is not a "political force," he's a Fascist. n/t (Original Post) blitzen Nov 2020 OP

Like it or not, Trump's lies did get a lot of voters. Claustrum Nov 2020 #1

He got a lot of votes from Fascists, because we are nearly a Fascist country... blitzen Nov 2020 #3

I don't disagree with you. But I don't think the term is completely wrong either. Claustrum Nov 2020 #4

I get your point and thought the same when I heard the CNN talking head say it... blitzen Nov 2020 #6

Truth Meowmee Nov 2020 #2

More like a political farce. liberalla Nov 2020 #5

"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." n/t blitzen Nov 2020 #8

those are not mutually exclusive. Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #7

Here's the problem. ananda Nov 2020 #9

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)

1. Like it or not, Trump's lies did get a lot of voters.

Reply to blitzen (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:14 AM

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blitzen

(4,572 posts)

3. He got a lot of votes from Fascists, because we are nearly a Fascist country...

Reply to Claustrum (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:19 AM

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So, yes, he is a political force. But not in any acceptable sense of the term.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)

4. I don't disagree with you. But I don't think the term is completely wrong either.

Reply to blitzen (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:22 AM

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I think there are a lot of Trump's base that aren't gettable. But I still think there are swing voters that somehow bought his lies/message. And we need to examine that one day. Not today because it's time for celebration.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)

6. I get your point and thought the same when I heard the CNN talking head say it...

Reply to Claustrum (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:25 AM

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What disturbed me was the neutral or innocent way that it was said. And yes, time for celebration!

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)

2. Truth

Reply to blitzen (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:15 AM

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liberalla

(9,243 posts)

5. More like a political farce.

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Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:23 AM

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blitzen

(4,572 posts)

8. "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." n/t

Reply to liberalla (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Voltaire2

(13,022 posts)

7. those are not mutually exclusive.

Reply to blitzen (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:26 AM

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He is a fascist, he is the head of the fascist Republican Party, and he is a political force.

Whether he remains a political force will depend on how his post election actions play out.

ananda

(28,858 posts)

9. Here's the problem.

Reply to blitzen (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Trump is literally the power behind the whole
Republican Party.

Even though he lost, he was the candidate with the
strongest coattails.

On the whole, many Republicans owe their victories
to his energizing of Reep voters.

Also, when considering down ballot races, Democrats
fared very badly, which means that we will probably
lose the House in 2022... unless we can find a way
to energize our party in a new way.

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