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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFuck the bullshit! GOP spin about it being a 'great' election for them is horseshit!
FOR WHATEVER REASON, every time their narrative is always the main story.
In 2018, we had a WAVE year. We did PHENOMENAL! Their narrative was that it wasn't much of a wave year for Democrats. They had Democrats questioning whether it was really a wave for us.
This year, losing the presidency is a 'great election' for republicans because they possibly didn't lose the senate?????
EXCUSE ME? WHAT KIND OF FUCKERY IS THIS?
We knew the Senate was an uphill battle. Because we didn't oust Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham, they took back a Senate seat we should have never had any chance of winning in the first place and we didn't win in ruby-red Montana, it was a bad year for us. FUCK THAT!
1) After 2016, we got to work.
2) In 2017, We won a senate race in fucking ALABAMA! ALABAMAAA! We had no business winning that seat!
3) We had a historic victory in 2018. We were competitive in states we had no business being competitive in like Texas and Georgia.. and won a governorship red ass Kansas.
4) We lessened their Senate majority. We made Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski the most powerful senators in their possible majority (and we'll be waiting on our gift basket for that).
5) They lost 2 Senate seats in Arizona, a long republican stronghold, IN TWO BACK-TO-BACK ELECTIONS.
6) In 2020, for the ultimate prize, we're about to win the Presidency.
IF I COULD DO A FUCKING MIC DROP ON THIS FORUM, I WOULD!
We're doing our job! This is progress! They're not taking this away!
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,402 posts)A lot of the progressive Twitter discourse has seemed pretty discouraging the past couple of days. It's not the blue progressive landslide we hoped for but having 4-8 years of Biden/Harris are going to be inestimably better for the country than another 4 years of Trump taking a wrecking ball to the country, norms, democracy, etc. And the Senate isn't totally lost yet. We have two runoffs we could win and we can possibly get creative with some moderate-leaning R's in the Senate. But for now, can't we just be happy with getting rid of Trump?!
In It to Win It
(8,229 posts)It didn't take a landslide to wreck the country.
It won't require a landslide to rebuild and make it better.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,402 posts)is a lot easier than building things, unfortunately. Not saying it's not impossible, though.
In It to Win It
(8,229 posts)DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)What we lost we lost in Texas, Iowa , Florida and deep red states. We may very well flip the Senate. We won 1 more
seat from the repubs. Without Trump to drive up turnout with his lies we may have a chance for actual positive political discourse.
jimfields33
(15,760 posts)Was unexpected. We were supposed to gain a bunch.
In It to Win It
(8,229 posts)and it was either all or mostly from seats we flipped in 2018. They took back house seats that they held just 2 years ago.
Obviously, I would rather expand our majority. 2020 was unpredictable. Anything could have happened. We maintained our majority and that's a win for me. Despite the projections and polls, we could have lost the majority completely because their turnout was higher than anyone (including myself) expected.
jimfields33
(15,760 posts)dsc
(52,155 posts)if by that you mean the GOP made huge gains, because clearly they didn't. But we won the Presidency probably by 51 to 45 and we lost House seats, only gained at most 3 senate seats and probably only 1, and in states it wasn't pretty at all. To take NC as an example. Our entire council of state was up, that is Gov, Lt. Gov. AG, Sec of state, State Superintendent of schools, Treasurer, Auditor, Agriculture, Labor, and Insurance. We won the Gov by a good margin, barely won AG. Auditor, and Sec of State and lost everything else. We had three Supreme court seats up, we are losing all three (with one being close enough that we might win that with the few outstanding ballots we have). We had five appellate court seats up lost all five and we lost both house and senate seats in the general assembly. And this is when the incumbent President had the worst economy since the great depression and killed hundreds of thousans of citizens through incompetence and inaction. Honestly, if I were a member of the GOP I would be feeling pretty damn good to. If they can run the country into this kind of ditch, lose the Presidency by the same margin that Ford did, and have the result be what I said above then that is a pretty damn good low point for them.
In It to Win It
(8,229 posts)I'm in Florida. Democrats lost up and down the ballot. GOP-appointed judges remained right where they are here in Florida, all of them. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Looking at that, that sounds good for republicans. In Florida, republicans didn't lose anything... but didn't really gain anything either. They flipped 2 or 3 house races that we had flipped back in 2018.
They didn't move. They didn't really gain any additional power but they didn't really lose any and they paint that as a bad election for Democrats, which is not really the case in my view.
For Democrats, the only direction we really had to go was up. In most of the states that had elections, the deck is stacked against us. These were long shots.
My main point is that I take issue with the narrative that the fact that the republicans won races that were in their favor -in deeply republican ruby red states and districts- is somehow a bad night for Democrats.
Because we were eyeing the state house in Texas and we didn't win is bad for us. The fact that Democrats can even talk about possibly picking up more seats in the Texas legislature is bad for republicans. That means they're losing ground... but that is no where in the discussion.
The GOP has gained no ground yet Democrats are easing in on their territory (Arizona and Georgia just to name a couple) and that's not part of the story when it should be, even though we may not be doing as well as people projected.