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BlueTsunami2018

(3,855 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:05 PM Nov 2020

All those things that were "unwritten" rules should now be written.

Spell it out since the emoluments clause is apparently too vague to be enforced.

You must show your taxes, you may not run a business, you may not profit from the office, you must comply with oversight and subpoenas and so on.

All those gentleman’s agreements and honor system norms that have been taken for granted all these years must now be spelled out definitively. We can never take the chance that a person like this ever takes office again.

What else should be added to the list?

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All those things that were "unwritten" rules should now be written. (Original Post) BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2020 OP
Yes Lokee11 Nov 2020 #1
True! BComplex Nov 2020 #8
McConnell too exboyfil Nov 2020 #2
I'd love to see Biden's DOJ go after Moscow Mitch night & day until they jail him. KS Toronado Nov 2020 #18
We can never again just assume the elected President is a person of good character. BKDem Nov 2020 #3
Yep soothsayer Nov 2020 #4
The power to pardon... Newest Reality Nov 2020 #5
The pardon should NEVER apply to anyone who might be complicit in a crime that BComplex Nov 2020 #12
Agreed. There is no honor in this administration nature-lover Nov 2020 #6
Absolutely. mindfulNJ Nov 2020 #7
you must concede with in 24 hrs after all recounts and your gopiscrap Nov 2020 #9
That's not necessary, IMHO. Newest Reality Nov 2020 #19
Don't we need the senate to do most of this? unitedwethrive Nov 2020 #10
Many would need not only the Senate sarisataka Nov 2020 #23
No Supreme Court vacancies filled in an election year NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2020 #11
Why not instead say sarisataka Nov 2020 #22
YES! Republicons and tRumpissers need guidance. Add ELECTORAL REFORM, should be top priority. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #13
One thing to leave OFF the list GopherGal Nov 2020 #14
Absolutely. BComplex Nov 2020 #16
The DOJ finding that a sitting President cannot be indicted must be withdrawn. BKDem Nov 2020 #15
Agreed! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #17
i don't think the emoluments clause is too vague to be enforced. unblock Nov 2020 #20
Yes, you said it so right RazzleCat Nov 2020 #21

BComplex

(8,999 posts)
8. True!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:09 PM
Nov 2020

This can never be allowed to happen again. And we need to set out exactly who arrests them, and at what point the perps are to be arrested and jailed for failing to comply. Mnuchin should be arrested third, behind trump and barr.

KS Toronado

(19,426 posts)
18. I'd love to see Biden's DOJ go after Moscow Mitch night & day until they jail him.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:16 PM
Nov 2020

Start with Russian campaign money laundering.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
5. The power to pardon...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:08 PM
Nov 2020

The power to pardon is also sweeping and vague. It leaves open the self-pardon as a potential.

Now, should a rogue President who has a list of crimes behind him be able to get completely off the hook? What kind of precedent does that set for another criminal president? Won't that be both tempting and empowering?

BComplex

(8,999 posts)
12. The pardon should NEVER apply to anyone who might be complicit in a crime that
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:11 PM
Nov 2020

helps the person doing the pardon. That should apply to governors, as well. You shouldn't be able to pardon people helping you to commit a crime for your benefit.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
19. That's not necessary, IMHO.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:17 PM
Nov 2020

From what I understand, conceding is just a formality and makes no real difference other than to display good sportsmanship, so to speak. It is also a sign to the people regarding the peaceful transfer of power.

Trump is by no means a good sport.

unitedwethrive

(2,004 posts)
10. Don't we need the senate to do most of this?
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:10 PM
Nov 2020

There’s only so much they can be done by executive order in terms of codifying law.

sarisataka

(20,806 posts)
22. Why not instead say
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:47 PM
Nov 2020

Any nominee not acted on within 60 days or voted within 90 days is presumed to be approved by the Senate.

GopherGal

(2,392 posts)
14. One thing to leave OFF the list
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:11 PM
Nov 2020

That "the sitting president can't be indicted" nonsense has to be disavowed completely. Perhaps as part of whatever vehicle is created to enable enforcement of the emoluments clause.

unblock

(54,082 posts)
20. i don't think the emoluments clause is too vague to be enforced.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:19 PM
Nov 2020

i'm not sure that there's any federal law that applies to the president, so i don't think he can be charged with anything criminal.

but i think it's clear from the constitution alone that any foreign emoluments donnie took don't belong to him, so the federal government should be able to seize and such funds.

RazzleCat

(732 posts)
21. Yes, you said it so right
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

I have tried to put on finger on this for a long time. I even think its more important than going after Trump (assuming that NY does the job, not excusing a full investigation on all of his enablers). I can honestly believe that even republicans could agree to this.

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