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Joe must end shitstain's security clearance! (Original Post) SheltieLover Nov 2020 OP
I am not aware a president elect has any authority to challenge the security clearance of a presiden MLAA Nov 2020 #1
AFIK, he has no authority to do anything but build his new team. TreasonousBastard Nov 2020 #3
Dotard doesn't have the authority to do most of what he does. 5X Nov 2020 #7
There is a lot of truth in your statement. I do hope going forward we are not timid in our actions. walkingman Nov 2020 #8
Absolutely! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #12
I meant once Joe is in office SheltieLover Nov 2020 #10
Please see #21 below. Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #22
Yes! Baked Potato Nov 2020 #2
I've been thinking that for a while. No daily briefings for any of them after Imperialism Inc. Nov 2020 #4
None of them should have clearance, IMO - none of putin's puppets! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #11
As I understand it, former presidents and certain former officials like CIA director retain theirs mackdaddy Nov 2020 #5
Where Trump & Co are concerned, there is no brain, and there is no trust. nt woodsprite Nov 2020 #6
Absolutely! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #23
Joe doesn't have to do anything. Access to classified information is on a need to know basis. Statistical Nov 2020 #13
Is it incorrecty to presume there i a higher brain trust that is kept informed in case of emergency? SheltieLover Nov 2020 #14
He will require debriefing... 2naSalit Nov 2020 #15
I'm with you 1,000,000% SheltieLover Nov 2020 #16
First and most immediate concern... 2naSalit Nov 2020 #17
Absolutely! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #19
trump has always been dangerous with a clearance Bayard Nov 2020 #18
Hasn't he already? SheltieLover Nov 2020 #20
Please see #21 below. Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #24
There is no evidence that Chump has a Security Clearance. Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #21
I don't see how that's possible.... Bayard Nov 2020 #25
Yes, he gets his classified briefings - whether or not he pays attention to them. Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #29
Wow! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #27
trump and his cronies are a security risk, so I'm not sure regular protocol will be followed. MerryBlooms Nov 2020 #26
I hope the CIA, FBI, DNI, etc are feeding him Ilsa Nov 2020 #28
...and they are definitely going to have to Sogo Nov 2020 #30

MLAA

(17,230 posts)
1. I am not aware a president elect has any authority to challenge the security clearance of a presiden
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020

I wish he could.

walkingman

(7,571 posts)
8. There is a lot of truth in your statement. I do hope going forward we are not timid in our actions.
Reply to 5X (Reply #7)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:48 PM
Nov 2020

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
12. Absolutely!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:06 PM
Nov 2020

And I believe that going forward EVERY presidential candidate should be required to pass the highest security clearance! BEFORE running in any campaign.

This will eliminate traitorous scum.

Not sure how, or if, this could be accomplished, but I firmly believe this should be enacted.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
10. I meant once Joe is in office
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:02 PM
Nov 2020

Sorry for confusion. And, I'll add he should, and likely will, reinstate former CIA Director Brennan's clearance!

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
4. I've been thinking that for a while. No daily briefings for any of them after
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

the transition.

There is no way Trump should be trusted with that kind of information. He'd trade it for gold any chance he got.

Biden could say he can have it back. Just submit a disclosure document like everyone else. He'd surely turn it down.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. None of them should have clearance, IMO - none of putin's puppets!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:04 PM
Nov 2020

And, going forward, I believe ALL candidates should be screened for the highest security clearance BEFORE becoming candidates!

Joe should, and likely will, reinstate former CIA Director Brennan's clearance, too.

mackdaddy

(1,522 posts)
5. As I understand it, former presidents and certain former officials like CIA director retain theirs
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:25 PM
Nov 2020

I think that they even get some briefings after they leave their office. This makes some sense to retain an experienced brain trust to call on.

But NOT in this case. So after Biden takes office I agree he should revoke the security clearance of most of these bastards.

Trump Revoked former CIA director Brennan's security clearance because he said something Trump did not like.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. Absolutely!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:01 PM
Nov 2020

And I think in future elections, candidates should be REQUIRED to pass the highest level of security clearances BEFORE running.

And Joe should, and will likely, IMO, reinstate CIA Director Brennan's clearance. It is VITAL to have that brain trust to depend upon!

Response to mackdaddy (Reply #5)

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
13. Joe doesn't have to do anything. Access to classified information is on a need to know basis.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:08 PM
Nov 2020

At 12:00 on Jan 20th Trump has no need to know anything and his access will be revoked. Same thing with every other President leaving office.

There is zero reason for Joe to get involved. We have an entire federal government all this kind of stuff is very routine.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
14. Is it incorrecty to presume there i a higher brain trust that is kept informed in case of emergency?
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:12 PM
Nov 2020

I also think our new admin should reinstate former CIA Director Brennan's clearance!

And if possible, make it mandatory for any presidential candidate wannabes to FIRST pass clearance to hold the highest office in the country BEFORE any campaigning.

This would have eliminated any possibility of chump, Kanye West, etc.

Perhaps state laws could accomplish this? Dunno. I'm not an attorney, but it seems logical to me. Many other jobs require background checks as screening procedures.

2naSalit

(86,282 posts)
15. He will require debriefing...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:13 PM
Nov 2020

And I hope they sequester him until that process is complete and he can be handed over to prosecutors to begin his life in prison after at least one trial.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
16. I'm with you 1,000,000%
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:32 PM
Nov 2020

They must ALL be prosecuted and serve MAXIMUM sentences, as well as forfeit their assets for all they have robbed from the taxpayers!m

I think Adam Schiff would be perfect for AG. After all, he "interviewed" for the job during impeachment and hit a granny out of the park!

Also, not sure legally how or if this is possible, but to prevent another russian asset from stealing 4 years in the WH, I believe ALL who want to campaign for president should be required to pass the highest level of security clearance BEFORE any campaigning begins. Why not? There are many jobs that a background check as a weed-out, pre-interview requirement for. Why not the highest in the land? I'm not a lawyer, so not sure how this could be accomplished. Perhaps by states passing laws?

This would most certainly have eliminated shitstain and Kanye West from the presidential race.

2naSalit

(86,282 posts)
17. First and most immediate concern...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:47 PM
Nov 2020

Is his fucking mouth. He will need to be unable to blast his bullshit all over the planet, he's a national security threat and should be dealt with accordingly.

Bayard

(21,979 posts)
18. trump has always been dangerous with a clearance
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:17 PM
Nov 2020

Blathering info all over the place, like it would help his social standing.

I wouldn't put it past him now to shout every secret from the rooftops. See how many covert operations and personnel that he can get killed.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
21. There is no evidence that Chump has a Security Clearance.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:48 PM
Nov 2020

He certainly isn't required to have one, and could never pass the criteria for getting one. His financials alone would negate him being granted a clearance.

https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2016/11/clearances-presidential/


“Security clearances are not mandated for the President, Vice President, Members of Congress, Supreme Court Justices, or other constitutional officers,” a recent Congressional Research Service report explains. “The criteria for election or appointment to these positions are specified in the U.S. Constitution, and except by constitutional amendment, no additional criteria (e.g., holding a security clearance) may be required.”

In fact, the security clearance system itself is an expression of presidential authority. Its scope and operation are defined in an executive order (EO 12968), and its terms can be modified by the President at will.

Bayard

(21,979 posts)
25. I don't see how that's possible....
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:47 PM
Nov 2020

He's been getting classified briefings all along, even if he didn't pay any attention to them.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
29. Yes, he gets his classified briefings - whether or not he pays attention to them.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:30 AM
Nov 2020

It is, however, presumed that someone who has been elected to the presidency will be of character to know what to do with and how to treat the information he/she receives. Let's face it...we never ran into a tRump scenario before, and hopefully never will again. It used to be that a U.S. president would have sense and not invite enemies or opponents to the WH, never mind give them a reception and access to any information is his possession.

Ilsa

(61,687 posts)
28. I hope the CIA, FBI, DNI, etc are feeding him
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:48 PM
Nov 2020

and his minions disinformation. If they can't, then I hope our allies are giving our Intel officers bad junk, but telling them it's worthless.

Sogo

(4,983 posts)
30. ...and they are definitely going to have to
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:47 AM
Nov 2020

do a thorough sweep of the WH for bugs that Russian officials and their accompanying Russian media who Trump invited into the WH may have planted.

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