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CNN reporting Romney has moved up suddenly into a tie with the President... (Original Post) WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 OP
It's because ProSense Oct 2012 #1
Because the white men were bitching about the polls BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #2
Has to be, right? n/t WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 #11
Nothing else has happened that one can point to BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #15
Do you always automatically take whatever a post says as true? It's not true. Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #33
Boom! That's it. nt valerief Oct 2012 #28
It's Bullshit malaise Oct 2012 #3
According to the Politico site Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #4
CNN doesn't report any news just1voice Oct 2012 #5
"propaganda" from Fux news. L0oniX Oct 2012 #39
I don't watch CNN any longer (for 4+ years now) but, DonViejo Oct 2012 #6
Because CNN isn't polling Registerd Democrats anymore ... doublethink Oct 2012 #7
So they deny that POTUS is ahead in several swing states? nc4bo Oct 2012 #8
I think this overall number just shows the Popular Vote, which Lex Oct 2012 #18
comedy news nutwork spanone Oct 2012 #9
LMFAO flyguyjake Oct 2012 #38
Corporate Neo Nadzee wanna a hor$e race. n/t Amonester Oct 2012 #10
A"greed". DenverDad Oct 2012 #12
When I go there, I always mute the commercials. Somebody is wasting money. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #56
I am so glad CNN is losing ratings still_one Oct 2012 #13
It fits their "comeback kid" story for Rmoney C_U_L8R Oct 2012 #14
Just because he's got a lot of support in the states he's GOING TO WIN ANYWAY Lex Oct 2012 #16
They're desperate for ratings and cleduc Oct 2012 #17
They'll always tell you their LV model numbers but not RV numbers Thrill Oct 2012 #19
Um WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #20
Their poll has Obama up by 3. This is probably what they mean by a tie. Mass Oct 2012 #21
was it in Ohio?? If not, don't worry LSK Oct 2012 #22
Lies and more lies Trailrider1951 Oct 2012 #23
Rupert Murdoch's illegitimate child (cnn) cannot compete with Fox "News". Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #24
Wasn't CNN once the child of Ted Turner (D) ? WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 #25
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GOTTA LOVE IT onecent Oct 2012 #26
Expect the polls to tighten Evergreen Emerald Oct 2012 #27
Look at it this way. It reminds us NOT to be complacent KaryninMiami Oct 2012 #29
I guess CNN's check from Rove's PAC is in the mail.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #30
Depends on the poll they were reporting on. Did you catch what poll? They were recently tied Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #31
I found the poll info. No, not tied. Just close. Here's the info: Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #32
Were they talking about North Carolina? demwing Oct 2012 #34
Chaos on Horseshit Hill CrazyOrangeCat Oct 2012 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author CrazyOrangeCat Oct 2012 #36
It's an accurate poll but mis-represented in how its attempting to drum up excitement for the debate cecilfirefox Oct 2012 #37
I have never ever been polled and I vote. Straight Democratic ticket. smirkymonkey Oct 2012 #40
Hun -Since When Is 50-47 A Tie? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #41
Within margin of error WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 #44
If It Makes You Feel Better To Think They Are Tied, Be My Guest DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #46
yeah, I know. WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 #48
IMHO, A Very Small Bit If The Negative 47% Remark Bump is Wearing Off DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #50
Well, then your OP is a bit of a stretch. blue neen Oct 2012 #47
Two Things DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #49
Trying to keep ratings up for debate. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #42
If republicans are going to steal B Calm Oct 2012 #43
That is my thought. WestWisconsinDem Oct 2012 #45
Exactly! And don't believe for one second they are not going to try. There is already solid lonestarnot Oct 2012 #58
Mitt won't have enough Electoral College votes to win as Dog Catcher. Walk away Oct 2012 #51
Because they are "cherry picking." MADem Oct 2012 #52
and a supermodel just rang my door bell with a pizza and bottle of wine too Botany Oct 2012 #53
CNN wants audience share underthematrix Oct 2012 #54
Fivethirtyeight.com is where I go when I want a realistic estimate... backscatter712 Oct 2012 #55
Is it just me or is there something fishy in Denmark? Lint Head Oct 2012 #57

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. Do you always automatically take whatever a post says as true? It's not true.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:02 PM
Oct 2012

See my post below.

The convention bounce has gone away, and three new polls have a tightening, with Obama still ahead in all three, just closer. Not tied at all.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
4. According to the Politico site
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:32 PM
Oct 2012

The CNN poll shows Obama 50% and Romney 47%...who knows what the talking heads are doing...

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
6. I don't watch CNN any longer (for 4+ years now) but,
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:33 PM
Oct 2012

I did post this earlier this around 4 PM, within minutes of it being posted to TPM:

CNN Poll: Obama By 3 Points Nationally

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251113933


doublethink

(7,331 posts)
7. Because CNN isn't polling Registerd Democrats anymore ...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:34 PM
Oct 2012

Just Independents and Republicans. A skewed poll. ...

Lex

(34,108 posts)
18. I think this overall number just shows the Popular Vote, which
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:01 PM
Oct 2012

means nothing, because it is the Electoral College count that selects the President, and if the Corporate Media reported on how THAT looked, it wouldn't be close.

DenverDad

(353 posts)
12. A"greed".
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:46 PM
Oct 2012

They want to raise their advertising rates leading up to the election.

Political "sweeps" month.

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
14. It fits their "comeback kid" story for Rmoney
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:47 PM
Oct 2012

and everyone knows its paid-for bullshit.
No clothes on this vulture capitalist emperor.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
16. Just because he's got a lot of support in the states he's GOING TO WIN ANYWAY
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:55 PM
Oct 2012

it doesn't mean anything. He's failing miserably in the swing state count for the Electoral Map and that's what counts. President Obama's team has played this exactly right.

The President is selected by the Electoral count, not the popular vote overall.

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
17. They're desperate for ratings and
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:56 PM
Oct 2012

this serves as a promotion for the Wednesday debate on their network

 

WestWisconsinDem

(127 posts)
25. Wasn't CNN once the child of Ted Turner (D) ?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:46 PM
Oct 2012

When did CNN become "Fox Lite?" Sometime in the late '90s? Earlier?

KaryninMiami

(3,073 posts)
29. Look at it this way. It reminds us NOT to be complacent
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:52 PM
Oct 2012

And anyone who feels that Obama has this in the bag- needs to think again. Hopefully one of the bi products of the media's need to keep this looking like a close race is that it instills utter terror in the hearts of anyone who might have not have voted thinking we are far enough ahead that it wouldn't matter. Because it does matter- because in reality, they can still win.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
30. I guess CNN's check from Rove's PAC is in the mail....
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

...puts them in the same boat as Fox News, doesn't it?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. Depends on the poll they were reporting on. Did you catch what poll? They were recently tied
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:56 PM
Oct 2012

in some poll, so it's not surprising it went back to a tie. I'll see if I can find the poll.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. I found the poll info. No, not tied. Just close. Here's the info:
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:00 PM
Oct 2012

(Newser) – So much for President Obama's unassailable lead: A handful of new polls are calling a close presidential race on the eve of Obama's first debate with Mitt Romney, CNN reports. CNN's latest poll found that 50% favor Obama and 47% favor Romney, a difference within the survey's margin of error. An ABC News/Washington Post poll found 49% for Obama and 47% for Romney, and the American Research Group counted 49% for Obama and 46% for Romney.


http://www.newser.com/story/155060/new-polls-put-race-nearly-neck-and-neck.html

Response to WestWisconsinDem (Original post)

cecilfirefox

(784 posts)
37. It's an accurate poll but mis-represented in how its attempting to drum up excitement for the debate
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:19 PM
Oct 2012

The poll is of likely voters, and yes, Obama and Romney may be tied there, but of course that poll is only of LIKELY voters, not all who vote. More importantly, the state polls are what matter. It's probably an accurate statistic but not really a very pertinent one.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
40. I have never ever been polled and I vote. Straight Democratic ticket.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:51 PM
Oct 2012

How many others of us who only use cell phones are being overlooked in those "polls"?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,847 posts)
46. If It Makes You Feel Better To Think They Are Tied, Be My Guest
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:22 PM
Oct 2012



However, the estimate a poll gets is in fact the likeliest true value, and the likelihood decreases as we move toward the extreme ends of sampling error.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2007/12/moe-and-mojo/
 

WestWisconsinDem

(127 posts)
48. yeah, I know.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:25 PM
Oct 2012

... just trying to make sense of it all. Can't see what can be giving Rmoney any movement, so as others have said, probably just CNN trying to hold interest.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,847 posts)
49. Two Things
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:36 PM
Oct 2012

1)There is a member who can use mathematical equations to show why a 3% lead in a poll with a. 095 confidence level is really not tied. Any statistician can.

2) Here's an interesting link that debunks the tightening claim:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021449079


I do think there has been a little tightening but not as much as some are claiming,

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
42. Trying to keep ratings up for debate.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:42 PM
Oct 2012

Trying to keep political advertising dollars rolling in.
Trying to keep interest up to keep down-ticket races competitive.
IOW, its bullshit.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
43. If republicans are going to steal
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:05 PM
Oct 2012

this election, then they have to make it appear they are close in the polls!

 

WestWisconsinDem

(127 posts)
45. That is my thought.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:14 PM
Oct 2012

If they can keep the polls within margin of error, then the fix is in.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
58. Exactly! And don't believe for one second they are not going to try. There is already solid
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:27 AM
Oct 2012

evidence of a cheat. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
51. Mitt won't have enough Electoral College votes to win as Dog Catcher.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

He can have the popular vote.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
54. CNN wants audience share
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:12 AM
Oct 2012

for the televised debate. So sad. I haven't watched CNN for years. PBO is going to win because believe it or not, it's what the markets want and by that I mean the GLOBAL markets.

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
55. Fivethirtyeight.com is where I go when I want a realistic estimate...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:17 AM
Oct 2012

Nov. 6 Forecast is still 85.7% chance of Obama win. Now-cast is at 97.8%.

CNN's desperate for a horse-race - their ratings are in the toilet!

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