I don't trust the Florida results.

[edhopper]

Yeah, I know, big Latinx vote for Trump.
But look at how close the last two elections were in that State.
Look at nearby more conservative Georgia and North Carolina.
They are neck and neck there, but in Florida Trump wins by 400,000?
Doesn't pass the smell test.

Oh yeah, they also have a corrupt, cheating Governor.

[rzemanfl]

1. Never trust a Florida election. n/t

[Phoenix61]

2. I live in Florida. It really is that bad. nt

[edhopper]

4. So why wasn't it like that

in 2018?

[Amishman]

17. 2018 had a motivation difference in our favor

We're seeing it in the house races too, we lost potentially every tossup this time around and some seats where we were favored.

Big disappointments with trying to take state legislatures too. In PA we even had a few Dems lose statewide races.

Same for Collins in Maine, would have been toast in 2018.

[SheltieLover]

3. Right!

It's FL. Expect ratfuckery.

[mr_lebowski]

5. The turnout in Miami-Dade was ridiculously higher than it was in 2016 ...

And Trump's share of the increased turnout was ridiculously high, like 90%+

At least according to some numbers someone posted on DU, haven't verified for myself.

I also do NOT trust FL.

[Alpeduez21]

6. You shouldn't

FL repukes are lying thieving bastards. There are ALWAYS lost democratic votes in that heinous state.

[PJMcK]

7. So what?

The Florida results are what they are.

Biden/Harris will win without Florida. But they'll govern without prejudice, unlike Il Douche.

[spooky3]

8. And Bloomberg poured money into FL. Joe's vote total was much higher

Than Clinton’s but Trump’s increased even more. Maybe the big GOP donors outspent him.

If the numbers are valid I wonder if any of it can be accounted for by a change in the people moving there. For example, liberal and moderate retirees may be choosing to go to GA, NC, VA coast, the Southwest, or to stay put, rather than move to FL.

[Catcar]

9. Florida has cheating mechanisms built into its system. IMHO

[Clearly fogged in]

10. I like to blame Scott, but it's ubiquitous and grandfathered in

but that doesn't make us unique. uniquely proficient sometimes though

[nakocal]

11. Also several thousands of ballots locked up in the post office

Thousands of ballots are sitting at post offices in Florida, undelivered so uncounted.

[FM123]

12. Yep.

And it's not just the governor, our chief elections officer is a shady Trumpster too : Secretary of State Laurel Lee.

[relayerbob]

13. Agreed

The GOP might have won, hard to tell, but the numbers are way off kilter

[Baitball Blogger]

14. We need to look into it, before the next election.

If they get away with it they will do the same in other states.

[MyMission]

15. I don't trust them either

Even though Florida is quite red, full of old white people, rednecks, proud Cubans and other cult 45 members, the numbers seem off to me too. And not just Florida, but several states.
I find Kentucky results very suspicious too.

[OMGWTF]

38. The Villages which is the largest retirement community anywhere was overwhelmingly for Biden

[edhopper]

46. Sumter County

Where the villages is went 67% for Trump.
He picked up a lot of votes there.

[duforsure]

16. Florida, Texas, North Carolina, and Kentucky

[ffr]

18. And cult45 member

They're all dead-enders. Out for themselves and nobody else.

[bluestarone]

19. We ALL know there cheating BIG TIME but

Until we figure out a way to investigate it, we're screwed! Other states as well. The people living in THESE states need to figure it out, and we maybe can help financially? Hard to investigate living OUTSIDE these states!

[LuvNewcastle]

20. It was stolen against, no doubt.

They do all sorts of dirty shit in Florida to sabotage Democrats. They've been doing it at least as long as the days when Jeb Bush was Governor and he had that crooked Sec. Of State in 2000. They purge voter rolls all the time and they're very strict about not letting felons vote. I wrote off Florida before the election. I knew Trump and Limbaugh and all the rest of those transplanted Floridians weren't going to let Joe Biden have it.

[Midnight Writer]

21. How many votes did Pat Buchanan get?

He always out performs expectations in Florida.

[CaptainTruth]

22. I agree. I saw a lot of Biden support here, more than for Clinton.

I had another post about seeing 11 Biden signs along a route where I saw 1 Clinton sign in 2016. Before the election that got up to 23 signs, I couldn't believe it, there weren't that many Trump signs.

I haven't compared total FL votes for Trump 2016 vs 2020, but I can't believe there would be a lot more in 2020. They hated Clinton & were motivated to vote against her 8n 2016. This year, there were a bunch of Republicans in my neighborhood who were voting Biden (per my Republican neighbors).

[marked50]

23. The thing that scares me about all this is that the areas of

Florida that are typical "blue" -Miami-Dade/Broward -are under assault from something more sinister- Global Warming and sea-level rise. This will mean that we can expect some type of migration from that area. Where will they go? Will they just leave the state to the "crazies" or just concentrate more inland or a little more north?

[luvtheGWN]

33. Florida's economy is going to be a big hurt

this year because no Canadian snowbirds. In fact, many have sold their homes/condos at a loss.

[Chakaconcarne]

24. Yeah, you noticed a week before election day the ads were pulled? He knew he had it bagged.

[Jamaal510]

25. I had someone

who worked down in the Miami area explain it to me earlier today. Basically, 45 had been working South Florida Latinos up into an anti-socialist lather, painting Biden and other Dems as socialists (despite the clear evidence to the contrary). Secondly, the social media environment is filled with disinformation aimed at Dems.

While it's true Biden's Latino outreach wasn't as strong as prior Dem campaigns and came too late, it sounds like the whole environment there has grown more toxic towards Dems. The "riot" fear mongering and "law and order" slogan from the GOP have been amazingly effective there.

[JCMach1]

26. Miami-Dade uses hackable ES&S machines

Follow the bouncing ball

[edhopper]

35. Miami Dade had an increase of

200,000 voters from 2016, every one of them voted for Trump.
If that don't stink...?

[Quixote1818]

41. Yep, there really needs to be some investigative reporting on that. nt

[Tracyjo]

28. I don't either

trump came out yesterday and mentioned four states before they cut him off. Bet those are the states they cheated in.

[yaesu]

29. the numbers don't add up, voodoo economics meet voodoo voting nt

[people]

30. I don't trust Florida . . .

Me either.

[Botany]

31. How may ballots were "lost" by the USPS?

n/t

[bucolic_frolic]

32. As a party

we need to move on from Ohio and Florida as a focus for strategy. Iowa too. We are winning where diversity and technology intersect.

[Amaryllis]

34. Remember when Trump said vote by mail was ok if state had GOP governor like FL?

[peacebuzzard]

36. was it in FL where thousands of mail ballots were just set aside?

like 300K? or am I dreaming? (it is Friday, been a tough week.)

[bringthePaine]

37. perhaps a faint aroma of vodka and borscht? Russia? are you listening?...

[Earthshine2]

39. What's more fake in FL, the election results or COVID numbers?

This man in Delray Beach wants to know.

[Quixote1818]

40. I think it's strange that PA, WI, MI and FL were so far off from the polls. Greg Palast thinks it

is from purging minority voters mostly that made it so close. That is what he was saying on Thom Hartmann yesterday.

[DallasNE]

42. I Would Add Texas To That Mix As Well

It, too, doesn't pass the smell test.

[58Sunliner]

43. I didn't trust the results in 2016 either.

26.5% supposedly voted for DT in 2016 and his support was supposed to be reduced. So how do we change the system down there? I know I only vote absentee in person because I don't trust anything else. What we need to push for are voting reforms. They have to be a priority. This has got to be done at a federal level.

[tavernier]

44. Sadly, I'm a Floridian

and I was so pleasantly surprised that the rest of the country covered for us. Rump drowned the state in mega magat crap... Hey, free flags for ppl who love swag!

But so fun now to laugh at the cheap Chinese flags rotting in the tropical sun.

[usaf-vet]

45. I seem to remember we had a problem in Florida in 2000 that started spiraling down this path.

... hang chads and SCOTUS decision my ass. IMHO if we had stop this crap then we wouldn't be here now.