This whole Pennsylvania segregated vote thing ... It's better to NOT have those votes COUNTED

[mr_lebowski]

unless it's confirmed that they actually COUNT.

Why?

Neither side should have any chance of knowing which side is favored in those votes while legal wrangling is going on over them.

Of course, in particular, I don't want Trump to know, and Democrats to not know.

I think if they're not going to 'count' officially, they should just be destroyed and never counted.

[madaboutharry]

1. Pete Williams and Joy Reid shrugged them off.

Their attitude was “who cares?”

[mr_lebowski]

2. Do we even know how many we're talking about and/or where they're from?

I want to know the whole thing was decided on merits (if any), and not because it gave an advantage to either side. IF they get counted, and there's a ton of margin of votes for either side, and everyone knows this ... and then they're NOT accepted cause of the Supreme Court ... that would suck.

[madaboutharry]

3. It's said to be a small amount.

It must be because no one seems to care.

[mr_lebowski]

5. Why does Trump care? Just for the optics of 'getting wins', even if they don't help him at all?

I suppose that's possible given what a little babyman he is.

[madaboutharry]

7. It's a game to him.

He’s a psychopath who needs to manipulate his cult into thinking bad shit is happening.

[mr_lebowski]

14. Fair enough that was always an option I was considering :) nt

[Laelth]

4. If there aren't enough of them to alter the outcome, the issue is moot. n/t

-Laelth

[mr_lebowski]

6. What if there are? nt

[Laelth]

12. Then it might alter the outcome.

So, the Court RIGHTLY ordered that these ballots be kept separate so that PA could report, when they all come in, whether there are enough of them to skew the outcome of the election. If there are enough of them, the Court will then consider the question of their legality. Because Biden is likely to be in the lead when this issue is considered, Trump will have to hope that the Court rules that they MUST be counted, and then Trump will have to hope that a majority of them go his way (an unlikely proposition).

-Laelth

[mr_lebowski]

13. Sure, and I'm just saying ... they shouldn't be counted up before a decision is made ...

Otherwise Trump might come to know whether or not he wants them to be counted in the totals or not.

I want him to have to change his whole tune about them because he's behind and it's his only freaking chance ... but he doesn't know for sure. And then it's just another failure.

See where I'm going with that?

[standingtall]

8. They should count and lawsuits to have then thrown out is completely

anti-democratic. They were postmarked before election day and therefore should count and there shouldn't be a debate about it. That why it matters.

[spanone]

9. it's a bullshit little thing that trump can hold up and say the supreme court voted in our favor

that's all it is

PayWall---https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-ballots-gop/2020/11/06/064fdf94-2056-11eb-90dd-abd0f7086a91_story.html

[eleny]

10. There are not enough to make a difference for Trump - according to Reid and Williams

[DeminPennswoods]

11. There were so many ads and information on local news,

in local newspapers and mailers that seemed to come every couple days, if you didn't know how to get your ballot in before the end of election day, you were paying 0 attention. But, it appears the vast, vast majority of voters got it.

[mr_lebowski]

16. Are you saying nobody was told ahead of time that all they needed to do was get the ballot

postmarked by Election Day for it to count?

People there didn't know that State Supremes ruled the way they did?

[DeminPennswoods]

17. The opposite

Pennsylvanians were inundated by public service ads, political ads, segments on local news, mailers and more on how to vote and how to make sure your absentee ballot made it in before 8PM on election day.

[mr_lebowski]

18. Well then Trump may have a reasonable case ...

I assumed (at least some % of) people there were aware that their votes would be counted as long as postmarked by Election Day. If they were not told this in any official capacity, that diminishes the argument that those votes should be counted. Doesn't necessarily rule it out, but it gives Trump a better shot.

[bdamomma]

15. Chris Hayes

to report on this now.