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Swalwell calls for creation of presidential crimes commission to investigate Trump when he leaves of (Original Post) soothsayer Nov 2020 OP
Make it so. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #1
Kickin' With Gusto! Faux pas Nov 2020 #2
And, do the Senate. NCjack Nov 2020 #3
Do Mitch first greymattermom Nov 2020 #47
Yes, of course. He should get his own special prosecutor. NCjack Nov 2020 #51
This is vital. mobeau69 Nov 2020 #4
I will second that icwlmuscyia Nov 2020 #6
Yes, for the obvious reasons,but also to put pressure on Trump to resign and get Pence to pardon him OnDoutside Nov 2020 #7
Whether or not he ever pays for his crimes, they need to be documented in detail. BKDem Nov 2020 #19
I believe this is very important. Silver1 Nov 2020 #27
His Crimes??????????/ DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #40
Them, too. BKDem Nov 2020 #42
Start with Moscow Mitch, he needs to go KS Toronado Nov 2020 #44
AMEN AND AMEN!!! uponit7771 Nov 2020 #5
K&R!! Sunsky Nov 2020 #8
Pardon or no pardon, investigate so the lesson can be transmitted and history can get it correct. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #9
And pass legislation that adds consequences to those who defy Congressional subpoenas Raven123 Nov 2020 #20
+1. But with limits so there is no harrassment by subpoena. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #36
Now is not the best moment to be pushing this Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #10
Agree karin_sj Nov 2020 #15
+++, no need to make Trump dig in his heels harder right now. n/t Pobeka Nov 2020 #16
Besides it may be better to let those New York DA work it instead. DLCWIdem Nov 2020 #32
I agree, but to be fair to Swalwell, he didn't push this now. He made this comment KPN Nov 2020 #50
Investigate Trump's crimes Qutzupalotl Nov 2020 #11
A lot of what Trump did isn't actually illegal jmowreader Nov 2020 #34
Yes, expose everything they did . JI7 Nov 2020 #12
Absolutely necessary. Swalwell would be excellent in that capacity. panader0 Nov 2020 #13
"Sauce for the gander". I remember a prominent Republican raising that oasis Nov 2020 #14
👏👏👏Lordy, Lordy Yes ashredux Nov 2020 #17
Absolutely imperative! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #18
I don't want to hear..... paleotn Nov 2020 #21
A catalogue of Trumps crimes... Jetheels Nov 2020 #22
Where's the petition? marble falls Nov 2020 #23
I don't want a commission that cannot indict. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #24
Yes. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #28
My predictions bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #26
This commission will be busy. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2020 #29
We need McConnell... boyedav1969 Nov 2020 #30
That was in August James48 Nov 2020 #31
WWRD? Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2020 #35
Geez. Chest those cards Eric OhNo-Really Nov 2020 #37
Sound the Alarm SayItLoud Nov 2020 #38
Yes. His conviction will help assure this never happens again. NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #39
Absolutely. dalton99a Nov 2020 #41
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Nov 2020 #43
It would be really nice if they would wait until after the Senate runoff elections in Georgia still_one Nov 2020 #45
IF EVER a former administration needed to be investigated this is the one. Just to figure out..... usaf-vet Nov 2020 #46
Or just make it a way to investigate which of the customary things need to be made into laws. greymattermom Nov 2020 #48
Absolutely needed CanonRay Nov 2020 #49
Yes, quietly without fanfare. Then, boom! Baked Potato Nov 2020 #52
Too many times, Republicans have been allowed to get away with no accountability for crimes. Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #53

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
7. Yes, for the obvious reasons,but also to put pressure on Trump to resign and get Pence to pardon him
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 08:52 AM
Nov 2020

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
19. Whether or not he ever pays for his crimes, they need to be documented in detail.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

And his criminal accomplices and enablers need to be called out by name.

Silver1

(721 posts)
27. I believe this is very important.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:30 AM
Nov 2020

No individual in the future can ever assume the presidency and think they can get away with unconstitutional actions.

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
40. His Crimes??????????/
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:47 AM
Nov 2020

How about the entire Republican administration, Republican Senators, Republican Cabinet members, and Republican party's crimes??????????

Hell, they are one giant criminal cabal.............

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
10. Now is not the best moment to be pushing this
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 09:00 AM
Nov 2020

If he waits until after the vote of the Electoral College constitutionally establishes that Joe Biden is our next President, I'm on board with this.

karin_sj

(808 posts)
15. Agree
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:11 AM
Nov 2020

This gives Trump more incentive to do whatever he can to steal the election. Plenty of time for that later, after Joe is president.

KPN

(15,637 posts)
50. I agree, but to be fair to Swalwell, he didn't push this now. He made this comment
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:36 AM
Nov 2020

back in August. Malcolm Nance appears to have just resurrected it today.

Qutzupalotl

(14,286 posts)
11. Investigate Trump's crimes
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 09:21 AM
Nov 2020

not Trump; we investigate crimes rather than people. We don’t start with an enemies list and work from there. We follow evidence. That’s what separates us from dictators like Trump.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
34. A lot of what Trump did isn't actually illegal
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:39 AM
Nov 2020

We need to lay all the Trump atrocities on the table so future generations will know why putting a man who’d never even served as dog catcher, and who had failed at everything he ever tried, in the White House is not just a bad but also a stupid idea.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
21. I don't want to hear.....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:19 AM
Nov 2020

"for the good of the country" one single goddamn time! The rule of law and our democracy is at stake. Let justice run its course unrestrained and wherever it might take us. Otherwise we set a precedent for far more dangerous future Trumps.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
24. I don't want a commission that cannot indict.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:23 AM
Nov 2020

An Independent Counsel has the power to investigate and indict. If Ken Starr could use his power to turn the Clinton investigation from a consensual sex act to spending years turning over every rock and pebble in the Clintons’ lives, then we can surely use an Independent Counsel to finally investigate Trump’s financial ties to Putin and the Russian mob and answer the question whether he has been a Russian asset. This investigation is important because Trump may run again in 2024 or one of his spawn, also likely Russian assets, may run, and we need to know beforehand whether they are compromised.

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
25. My predictions
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:28 AM
Nov 2020

Pres. Biden will have his hands full. Vindictive mood will not help that. He'll allow DOJ to pursue underlings as they see fit. Trump will be left to the State of NY. Wildcard will be if the full Mueller Report is released. I suspect not, as there's too much too sensitive. It sounds like a decades long CI operation, from posts I've read on Twitter. I don't think they ever roll them up because that would alert the crooks and end the investigation. It's bad for employment too.

DOJ might follow the money trail to Congress, but only a few exemplary cases. It takes too much money to run for office, and if that dries up, it's bad for business too.

Only the most egregious crooks go to jail. I don't expect a crimes commission to ever be established.

Response to soothsayer (Original post)

boyedav1969

(93 posts)
30. We need McConnell...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:36 AM
Nov 2020

in the crosshairs of this or other investigations, along with the rest of the criminal GOP enablers.

James48

(4,427 posts)
31. That was in August
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:36 AM
Nov 2020

I don’t want a Presidential Crimes Commission.

I want actual criminal Nuremberg style trials.

Response to soothsayer (Original post)

SayItLoud

(1,701 posts)
38. Sound the Alarm
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:45 AM
Nov 2020

Let every tRUMP enabler in Gov. know that if they alter or delete official Gov. documents they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
39. Yes. His conviction will help assure this never happens again.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:47 AM
Nov 2020

America paid far too high a price for this presidency. Deceit, selfishness and ignorance has cost us dearly in world standing, human lives and nearly Democracy itself.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
45. It would be really nice if they would wait until after the Senate runoff elections in Georgia
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:13 AM
Nov 2020

Making statements like this I don’t think are helpful to our Senate candidates in Georgia

usaf-vet

(6,163 posts)
46. IF EVER a former administration needed to be investigated this is the one. Just to figure out.....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:16 AM
Nov 2020

..... how much taxpayer money they stole or "misappropriated".

Let me start with the little stuff that still cost millions.

Charging the U.S.Secret Service for golf carts, the military for fuel, and rooms at his overseas golf courses.

The free military air travel for his grifters.

The golf trips that cost millions.

Then go to the laws and policies he broke.

Then reinvestigate and impeach Kavanaugh and Barrett for perjury in their confirmation hearings.

And that is before my first cup of coffee!

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
48. Or just make it a way to investigate which of the customary things need to be made into laws.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:31 AM
Nov 2020

And create laws to prevent some of the abuses of custom. It's their job after all, writing new laws.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
53. Too many times, Republicans have been allowed to get away with no accountability for crimes.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:20 PM
Nov 2020

Multiple times over the last decades.

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