Pundits are obsessing this morning on how Republicans are not appealing to REAL Americans, right?

[Squinch]

They're talking on every station about how Republicans need to change so they will appeal to the urban, female, black and latino voters, right?

They're talking to lots of women and black and brown people in city diners, right? And asking those urban voters what the Republicans did wrong? Telling Republicans they need to study these people and their opinions, and really come to understand them? There's a bunch of books coming out by these REAL Americans to educate Republicans on how they have to change, right?

I'm asking because I don't have cable. But I think they must be doing that. They are, right?

[catbyte]

1. Oh, yeah. 100%.

[NotAPuppet]

2. I'm waiting for the NYT

to go out into one of the deep red States to find Republicans who voted for Biden and for about 30 articles about the disillusioned people who turned their backs on the Democratic Party.

Come on guys, you did this so well in 2016!

[treestar]

3. Yes, you have to wonder

Though I guess it makes sense given the EC and the Senate. They just have more say than we do because of those two institutions.
Blown up bigger by needed supermajorities to change them.

Even the House is not really proportionate. I had read that even when the Rs hold Congress, the Ds got more votes overall. This is true in some states also. Perhaps something could be done about that.

It's why we want a big blue wave. We need supermajorities of the House and Senate. And getting one in the Senate is near impossible.

[getagrip_already]

8. We have too many voters in too small of an area......

gerrymandering hurts us badly. They concentrate all of our voters into small blocks and leave the rest as safer districts we can't compete well in.

We need something like a homesteaders act. Where homes and land that get seized or foreclosed on for one reason or another is given to urban families with health care workers or some other critical skill set via lottery. Only condition is it must become a primary residence and you have to live there 10 years.

That would begin to seed our voters into rural areas and provide them with critical skills lacking in their communities,

Win/win but it would spark a civil war.

[treestar]

9. I had an idea that with the ability to work from home

more blue people could move into rural areas. People who like the space. Would they stay blue or become rednecks?

Southern states could change over time - the climates are warm. There are large AA minorities in each. Move enough progressives back to those state to tip over 50%. Or make their cities larger, too. Even in red states, the cities are blue.

[Squinch]

10. I think that will happen, but the process has just begun.

[getagrip_already]

11. the problem in local races is the concentration of voters...

House and state legislatures are very susceptible to this. We practically have to have a "blue wave" every election cycle just to hold on to what we have.

That's why the census and the state house races are so critical. They determne the districts in 10 year blocks, and scotus isn't going to allow limits on gerrymanering.

We can easily end up a minority majority.

The house is teetering. It should be a dead nuts lock.

[treestar]

19. Yes. Then how much of rule by minority

will the majority put up with, and not be able to do anything about? It could increase the divide more and more unless the red states start moving into the future rather than trying to hang onto the past.

[58Sunliner]

4. More like, why didn't all the militias vote?

[Squinch]

5. True. And they are careful to call them "militias" to invoke our Revolutionary forebears,

rather than "white supremacist thugs" which is what they are.

[58Sunliner]

6. Yep.

[getagrip_already]

14. also the 2a specifically calls out militias.....

Of course, it calls out well regulated militias, which these domestic terrorists aren't.

[Squinch]

17. Exactly. It's like calling me a Vogue model because I own and display a nice lipstick.

[Nimble_Idea]

7. THIS +10000

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Well said

[Johnny2X2X]

12. +1000!!!

This was a thrashing and I want to see the stories about the Biden voters the Republicans can’t reach because of their extremism.

[agingdem]

13. this is rich!...

Republicans enabled an orange cretin that spewed racial, ethnic, and gender hate every time he opened his rancid mouth... but maybe if they didn't regard women and people of color as something other than "real Americans" they might get a smidge of understanding as to why they don't "connect"...

[StarfishSaver]

15. I see what you did there

But no - they're talking about what Democrats can do to appeal to "real Americans" aka white people who didn't vote for them, because those are the only people who matter ...

[ananda]

18. Yes, it's code talk for whites.

..

[treestar]

21. It's not that they matter more as white but

because the EC and Senate favor rural voters. Then on top of it the Senate now using the filibuster and now the Senate having a majority leader that won't even put legislation up for vote. He should not be getting away with that, yet somehow we can't seem to do much about it or get people to care enough about it.

Even in red states, the cities are blue, so it's pronouncedly an urban/rural divide and the rurals have advantages built into the system. The growth of cities in red states could be promising. Georgia is interesting in this - perhaps Atlanta and an a couple of other cities could overwhelm the rural voters to the point where they tip the state blue (as Pittsburgh and Philadelphia do for PA).

[StarfishSaver]

22. No, this obsession has nothing to do with the Electoral College

They obsess over white rural Trump supporters wherever they are.

And there are plenty of black folk in rural areas in red states. But you wouldn't know it because we never see them.

[treestar]

23. They just aren't as numerous

But if the rural black people vote red, they are included in rural voters who have that greater power and the same thing applies. The Southern states have the biggest black populations. They are still a minority in those states though. So we need more liberal whites in those states (and other races).

[StarfishSaver]

25. I'm sorry, but all of this is beside the point

The media has an obsession with a minority of white voters, and it has nothing to do with any perceived voting power they have. They obsessed over them when they were on the losing side ("Let's talk to these people to find out more about why they hate Obama&quot . They obsessed with them when they were on the winning side ("Let's talk to these people to find out why they love Trump&quot .

Their coverage is always focused on how these people are the salt of the earth but the media and Democratic elites ignore them. All the while, they flood the zone with coverage of these "neglected" people and demand that both parties explain what they're going to do to get their votes. Meanwhile other voters - especially black and brown ones - are ignored in the media other than to be talked about as just one big group. But there's no onslaught of reporters flooding rural diners and urban coffeeshops sitting down with them to ask them about their concerns, what they're looking for in a candidate, and why they're voting the way they do. And they definitely don't keep telling everyone that we are neglecting them or consistently talk about what parties should be doing to earn their votes.

The OP is highlighting a clear reality. And no amount of explaining will make that go away.

[Solly Mack]

16. K&R!

[kwolf68]

20. DinG

I wish when a Dem rep is asked about this they turn it around.

The Republicans have won the popular vote ONE SINGLE TIME since 1988, ONCE.

[bullwinkle428]

24. Trust me - they're already setting the table, if you will, for the Democrats to NOT

pursue any criminal accountability for this regime's horrific acts.

On MSNBC, watch for Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell to lead this parade.

[StarfishSaver]

26. Tim Wise ...

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