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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo, State Legislatures Cannot Overrule the Popular Vote
https://www.justsecurity.org/73274/no-state-legislatures-cannot-overrule-the-popular-vote/To be absolutely clear: A state legislature cannot overrule the states popular vote for president. This is not a close case.
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The Constitution has two main provisions that govern the selection of presidential electors. First, the Constitution says that each states legislature has the authority to determine that states manner of choosing its electors. Second, the Constitution gives Congress the power to decide when the electors are chosen, which Congress has done by enacting a federal law designating the Tuesday after the first Monday in November Election Day.
Proponents of the legislative-appointment theory read too much into the first constitutional provision and forget about the second. Although every state has chosen its electors by popular vote for more than a century, most constitutional experts agree that, under the legislatures authority to choose the manner of appointing electors, a legislature could theoretically decide before Election Day to cancel the popular vote for presidential electors and instead appoint them directly. But Congresss enactment of a uniform national Election Day under its own constitutional authority which supersedes any contrary state actions prohibits the choice of electors from being made based on elections held or laws passed after Election Day.
In other words, under the constitutional timing provision as implemented by federal law, the absolute last day a state legislature could have decided to appoint the states presidential electors for this election was November 3, 2020. Once that date passed, the determinative popular votes had all been cast, and therefore the legislatures authority to change the states manner of appointing electors in 2020 passed as well.
Recognizing that emergencies can happen, federal law includes a very limited exception to the requirement that presidential electors be chosen on Election Day: If a state tried to hold an election as scheduled, but that election failed, the law allows a state legislature to then create a backup system for choosing electors. Never in American history has this exception been used, so its not entirely clear what it would mean for a presidential election to fail. Perhaps a natural disaster that renders parts of a state uninhabitable on Election Day would meet the standard. But regardless of what might constitute a failure for these purposes, its quite clear that nothing remotely in that ballpark occurred on November 3. Not only were there no natural disasters, to the contrary Election Day 2020 was in many ways one of the smoothest-running ever, with turnout apparently setting records across the country. The failure exception has no bearing on this election.
There is a second, independent reason state legislatures cannot cancel the popular vote results after Election Day: to do so would violate the Constitutional rights of the voters. Specifically, the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution prohibits states from taking away their citizens rights without due process of law. One such right, of course, is the right to vote. And the Supreme Court has made clear many times, in more than a hundred years worth of precedents, that the constitutional right to vote does not just mean the right to put a ballot in a box, but also the right to have that ballot counted toward determining the elections results. For a state legislature to invalidate a popular election would be equivalent to simply refusing to count the citizens votes. The Constitution unambiguously prohibits disenfranchising any eligible voters, much less an entire states worth.
One final point bears mention: What would happen if a state legislature were to violate the Constitution and federal law, disregard court orders, and purport to appoint the states presidential electors anyway? It wouldnt work. The rules for counting electoral votes specifically address a situation in which a state sends in two sets of votes: one set cast by electors chosen on Election Day, and the other cast by electors who claim to have been chosen by some other method. The Electoral College rules specifically give conclusive effect to the votes cast by the former the electors chosen on Election Day and require that those votes be counted to the exclusion of any others. An illegal legislative usurpation of the election would fail.
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The Constitution has two main provisions that govern the selection of presidential electors. First, the Constitution says that each states legislature has the authority to determine that states manner of choosing its electors. Second, the Constitution gives Congress the power to decide when the electors are chosen, which Congress has done by enacting a federal law designating the Tuesday after the first Monday in November Election Day.
Proponents of the legislative-appointment theory read too much into the first constitutional provision and forget about the second. Although every state has chosen its electors by popular vote for more than a century, most constitutional experts agree that, under the legislatures authority to choose the manner of appointing electors, a legislature could theoretically decide before Election Day to cancel the popular vote for presidential electors and instead appoint them directly. But Congresss enactment of a uniform national Election Day under its own constitutional authority which supersedes any contrary state actions prohibits the choice of electors from being made based on elections held or laws passed after Election Day.
In other words, under the constitutional timing provision as implemented by federal law, the absolute last day a state legislature could have decided to appoint the states presidential electors for this election was November 3, 2020. Once that date passed, the determinative popular votes had all been cast, and therefore the legislatures authority to change the states manner of appointing electors in 2020 passed as well.
Recognizing that emergencies can happen, federal law includes a very limited exception to the requirement that presidential electors be chosen on Election Day: If a state tried to hold an election as scheduled, but that election failed, the law allows a state legislature to then create a backup system for choosing electors. Never in American history has this exception been used, so its not entirely clear what it would mean for a presidential election to fail. Perhaps a natural disaster that renders parts of a state uninhabitable on Election Day would meet the standard. But regardless of what might constitute a failure for these purposes, its quite clear that nothing remotely in that ballpark occurred on November 3. Not only were there no natural disasters, to the contrary Election Day 2020 was in many ways one of the smoothest-running ever, with turnout apparently setting records across the country. The failure exception has no bearing on this election.
There is a second, independent reason state legislatures cannot cancel the popular vote results after Election Day: to do so would violate the Constitutional rights of the voters. Specifically, the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution prohibits states from taking away their citizens rights without due process of law. One such right, of course, is the right to vote. And the Supreme Court has made clear many times, in more than a hundred years worth of precedents, that the constitutional right to vote does not just mean the right to put a ballot in a box, but also the right to have that ballot counted toward determining the elections results. For a state legislature to invalidate a popular election would be equivalent to simply refusing to count the citizens votes. The Constitution unambiguously prohibits disenfranchising any eligible voters, much less an entire states worth.
One final point bears mention: What would happen if a state legislature were to violate the Constitution and federal law, disregard court orders, and purport to appoint the states presidential electors anyway? It wouldnt work. The rules for counting electoral votes specifically address a situation in which a state sends in two sets of votes: one set cast by electors chosen on Election Day, and the other cast by electors who claim to have been chosen by some other method. The Electoral College rules specifically give conclusive effect to the votes cast by the former the electors chosen on Election Day and require that those votes be counted to the exclusion of any others. An illegal legislative usurpation of the election would fail.
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No, State Legislatures Cannot Overrule the Popular Vote (Original Post)
Roland99
Nov 2020
OP
JustSecurity has become a beacon of solidly researched and well-written articles
Roland99
Nov 2020
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TrueBlueNV
(25 posts)1. Thank you!!
I have seen bits and pieces on social media throwing this out as a warning. Needed to read that ❤️
Roland99
(53,342 posts)2. JustSecurity has become a beacon of solidly researched and well-written articles
used them several times this year
Voltaire2
(13,021 posts)3. Constitutional arguments are problematic.
We dont know yet how radical this court is.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)4. I think trump will be hard-pressed to get much further than state courts