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Highlighting an interestingand to many, instructiveelectoral trend that others have spotted in the days since 2020 voting ended earlier this week, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Saturdayjust as jubilation spread nationwide among Democrats and progressives upon news that Joe Biden will be the next U.S. Presidentpointed out that every single congressional member this year who ran for reelection while supporting Medicare for All won (or was on their way to winning) their respective race.
Link to tweet
The tweet emerged as many across the corporate media landscape, including pundits and former high-level Democratic officials like Rahm Emanuel, unabashedly pushed a narrative that progressives calling for policies like a single-payer universal healthcare system or the Green New Deal are somehow a hindrance to electoral success. Ocasio-Cortez was not standing for it:
As Common Dreams reported Friday, while corporate-friendly Democrats have continued to go to bat for the for-profit healthcare system that lavishes billions of dollars each year on insurance companies, for-profit hospitals, and pharmaceutical giants, a new poll this weekput out by Fox News no lessshows that 72% of all U.S. voters would prefer a "government-run healthcare plan." And the poll is far from an outlier, with numerous surveys in recent years showing this trend.
"Polls consistently show a majority of the U.S. electorate [is] considerably to the left of both party leaderships... on issue after issuethe environment, electoral reform, [and] Medicare for All," said Jacobin's Luke Savage in response that poll.
Despite what "corporate front groups and lazy pundits always say," tweeted journalist Andrew Perez, "people absolutely do not like their private health insurance."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/11/07/every-single-one-ocasio-cortez-notes-every-democrat-who-backed-medicare-all-won
mzmolly
(52,806 posts)likely ran in more conservative districts.
Glamrock
(12,003 posts)But without knowing what districts these are, its definately hard to tell.
JI7
(93,726 posts)Glamrock
(12,003 posts)I dont.
dsc
(53,413 posts)I don't know them all but Peterson is from the most Republican district represented by a Democrat. It is R + 12. I would bet my next 1000 paychecks that no one on that list could win his district.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)On CNN this morning John Kasich said that it was the left wingers who almost cost Biden the election. Would a Republican lie to us?
Bettie
(19,778 posts)there are a set of people who really love Kasich and hate left wingers.
Cha
(319,494 posts)Votes Across the Country.
We're not talking about just Blue Districts here.
https://joebiden.com/healthcare/
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)The Republican party is the party of neo-nazi white supremacist domestic terrorists. They elected Trump, and they fought tooth and nail to re-elect him. It is Republicans who gave us this nasty SCOTUS. They fight everywhere to keep people from voting. They are currently planning to go to court in a desperate attempt to overturn the election. It's not the kleft that is doing this, it is fascist Republicans.
Kasich was a fill in host for Bill O'Reilly on Fox News, and had his own Fox News show, Heartland With John Kasich, for six years.
While Governor of Ohio he successfully fought to suppress the vote in Ohio:
Kasich signs voting bills that end Golden Week and limit distribution of absentee ballots
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Gov. John Kasich signed into law Friday changes to Ohios election rules on early voting and handling of absentee ballot applications.
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The bills, hotly contested by Democrats, cleared the General Assembly Wednesday after heated debate. Democrats said the changes will make it harder for people to vote and lead to more absentee ballots being discarded due technical errors. They warned that the people most affected by the changes are those in urban populations, populations that tend to vote Democratic.
Rep. Chris Redfern of Catawba Island, who also is chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party, promised his party would sue to stop the bills from taking effect.
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The Ohio Association of Election Officials recommended the five-day period be scrapped to create a clean break between when voters can register and when they can cast ballots. Democrats and voter rights advocates said reducing early voting days would disenfranchise voters and lead to longer lines at the polls. They also questioned the urgency and motive behind passing the bills.
https://www.cleveland.com/open/2014/02/kasich_signs_voting_bills_that.html
Isn't that just special?
Any Democrats who are Republican sympathizers haven't cleared all the brainwash, and desperately need therapy to get the Fox News and Limbaugh completely out of their heads.
Yes, there may be a handful of Republicans who sort of don't like Trump, but most of them probably voted for him in 2016 and 2020 anyway. Democrats must unite the entire left, or Trump, or another Hitler wannabe just like him, or far worse, will unite the the Republican Cult of Trump Worshipers, and Trump Republican fascism will be back, with a vengeance.
JI7
(93,726 posts)light red districts.
In It to Win It
(12,666 posts)DeminPennswoods
(17,542 posts)their primaries to get the chance to run in those "deep blue" districts.
Happy Hoosier
(9,554 posts)The devils in them.
msongs
(73,874 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,372 posts)They didn't support Medicare for All? Or the Green New Deal? Or defunding the police? Or abolishing ICE? Or socialism?
Because if those so-called Democrats running in their safe ass super blue districts actually came to the areas where those good Democrats lost, they would think otherwise, because THAT WAS EVERY AD THE REPUBLICANS RUNNING AGAINST THEM WERE CLAIMING.
So goddamn sick of their purity tests from the bluest of blue enclaves. Come to the rural areas of the south and hold a rally and let's really see how many of these secret socialists you think are out there.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But all these attention grabbing democrats from super blue districts poison the well for democrats in more moderate areas. And besides, Im not convinced the majority of democrats even support Medicare for all. I dont. And Im very liberal.
JI7
(93,726 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Sgent
(5,858 posts)saying this were so happy when Mary Landrieu lost, giving way to David Vitter.
betsuni
(29,136 posts)The only progressive one? The only path to universal health care? Why the purity test? I don't get it.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Let's just make sure everyone's covered thoroughly and affordably. No purity tests on precisely how we get there.
JI7
(93,726 posts)basic questions about it. It's more a slogan than actual health plan.
betsuni
(29,136 posts)ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Going to brunch tomorrow?
aidbo
(2,328 posts)(Or 5)
JI7
(93,726 posts)Cha
(319,494 posts)mvd
(65,934 posts)But many are definitely better than ours. I do agree that we need to focus on saving the Affordable Care Act as long as the SC is considering it. But I 100% support MFA, a single payer system, or even just one that takes away the power of health insurance companies to make important decisions. The pandemic has made going beyond the Affordable Care Act even more important.
BTW many people have given answers about it.
betsuni
(29,136 posts)Who cares whose policy it is. And Medicare for All is an old idea.
mvd
(65,934 posts)Right now we should be happy about Bidens win and then we can have the policy discussions.
betsuni
(29,136 posts)they're the first ones to promote them and that it's a unique idea. Bernie in a Rachel Maddow interview last year claiming Democrats think health care as a human right is a radical idea: "Health care as a human right. 'Oh, Bernie, that's not -- that's un-American. Nobody in America thinks that.'"
I live in a country with nationalized health care and it's not health insurance companies making important decisions, it's the government. It's more complicated than a slogan.
mvd
(65,934 posts)And again, I agree with him. I will continue to advocate for MFA though I realize it may take incremental progress to get there considering the political landscape.
betsuni
(29,136 posts)This year: "My opponents will tell you Medicare-for-all is a radical idea. It is not a radical idea."
Medicare-for-All has been around for many decades. Universal health care as a human right is a core Democratic idea. Why he thinks Democrats say it's a radical idea is a mystery.
mvd
(65,934 posts)Bernie has helped get it into the mainstream of discussion. Its gaining traction. That is without doubt. Why are we arguing over this? Lets move on and enjoy the victory.
betsuni
(29,136 posts)Obama administration got ACA with a public option passed in the House but not in the senate. The popularity of the ACA made the idea of government health care more acceptable to Americans. The Fight for Fifteen started out as a fast food workers protest and became a national movement for a fifteen dollar minimum wage, leading to cities and states adopting it. Seattle was proof that a fifteen dollar minimum wage didn't bankrupt small businesses. The popularity of the higher minimum wage made it more acceptable to Americans. The legalization of marijuana in states: society didn't collapse and that made it more acceptable to Americans. So did same sex marriage. Like everything else.
Has nothing to do with Bernie except for people new to politics. He'd be terrific if he didn't say things like he did last week that "I think it is fair to say that in many ways the Democratic Party has become a party of coastal elites" and claims that things like universal health care and a higher minimum wage are radical ideas that only he supports. It's really a shame. I wish he could understand.
mvd
(65,934 posts)Just about everything you said there about Bernie and the ACA I dont think is right. Doesnt make sense to me. Moving on.
betsuni
(29,136 posts)Look it up. Universal health care as a human right is a core Democratic policy. This is a fact.
mvd
(65,934 posts)I disagree on how you think the ACA has anything to do with attitudes on MFA. The ACA still relies on greedy private insurance and the public option has to be strong enough to resist the power of insurance companies. At best, it was a step to universal care, and better than what we had - but not the type of care needed IMO.
We can disagree on where to go in health care. I dont feel like arguing this anymore when there is a lot of positive in Biden winning.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)In my opinion we should aim for something like the French system. It is mixed. More importantly we could get there from what the ACA started. Even if the SC strikes it. Especially if they do. Americans understand we need to do something with healthcare. Even my conservative friends agree.
The status quo is the worst system in the first world.
sheshe2
(97,842 posts)They did not just win a district they won the support of the US by 5 million popular votes.
Cha
(319,494 posts)he calls it that on his site talking about Health Care!
https://joebiden.com/healthcare/
He's not shy about calling it that, either!
sheshe2
(97,842 posts)And for the link.
Happy tears today and filled with hope. 💕
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Me.
(35,454 posts)do they tell them Medicare is not free and you have to pay a premium every month plus need supplemental insurance for what Medicare doesn't cover?
JI7
(93,726 posts)They will make comments about billionaires but the reality is the things they claim to want would require just about all Americans to pay more taxes.
Just as they do in Europe where they have those things.
I personally think it's worth it but also know hire resistant Americans including in blue California are to more taxes.
If people expect it to be free and then get a bill the blow back could be fierce and detrimental.
Celerity
(54,620 posts)extremely low premiums and co-pays. They just borrowed the Medicare name as a marketing ploy.
In terms of cost, the current system (with the ACA) is estimated to have a total cost for all healthcare and pharma expenditure over the next 10 years of around 55-60 trillion, which is less than all studies so far of what MFA would cost. Now that the ACA is likely going to binned, that 55-60 trillion figure will more than likely increase.
Now, I am NOT saying that MFA will pass anytime in the next 15, 20 years, if ever. In fact I was one of the few who said that the Public Option would not pass, even if we had a 52-48, 53-47, or even a 54-46 Senate MAJORITY (which of course we will not, it will take the election of the century to just draw even in the two runoffs in GA). Too many forces aligned against it. Trillions upon trillion in profits at stake over the next 20 years.

pfitz59
(12,785 posts)The GOP (and Conservative Dems) won't even allow a discussion. Likely due to the $Millions spent by lobbyists and funneled to PACs.
Bettie
(19,778 posts)a conveyer to move enormous sums of money from people who don't have it to people who don't need it while covering as little actual care as possible.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)NOT.A.SINGLE.ONE.
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)and commondreams
egduj
(881 posts)As with trump, she has a way of pissing people off with everything she says (or tweets).
Happy Hoosier
(9,554 posts)Of Telling half the story. Shes smart. But makes the mistake of giving no one else credit for political savvy.
DeminPennswoods
(17,542 posts)I was looking out for my parents, trips to the doctor, ER, hospital, rehabs and so on, I did not meet one person, doctor, nurse, PT, aide who thought the US healthcare system worked. I'm sure we didn't all agree politically, but to a person we agreed something has to change.
Personally, I think single-payer would be overwhelmingly popular.
ecstatic
(35,088 posts)This isn't the time for grievances and gotchas. Focus!
Cha
(319,494 posts)and got 75 Million Votes Across the Country!
https://joebiden.com/healthcare/
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)to win in GA? I love her, but sometimes, like my own children i want to smack her butt.
Hav
(5,969 posts)but who is she talking about? The image presented here apparently includes the swing states of NY and MA or deep blue districts that were won with something like 30 to 60% blowouts. It's dishonest to argue that a district is somehow harder to win just because it's in a swing state.
Secondly, the goal to strive for should be universal healthcare and there are more than one way to get there.
Finally, every single Democrat running on Medicare for all lost in the Democratic primaries. Every.
Single.
One.
That is the most left-leaning demographic they could ever hope for if they want to win the Presidency.
gulliver
(14,029 posts)Current Medicare is ridiculously user-unfriendly. You have "donut holes," crazy rules about hospitalization, no MOOP (maximum out of pocket), doctor participation headaches, drug coverage gaps, etc. If you're on Medicare and don't have at least supplemental coverage or an advantage plan, you basically don't have healthcare.
Universal health care needs to be simple: You go to the doctor; you get care. You get a prescription; the pharmacy fills it. By framing what we want as "Medicare for All," we condemn ourselves to fighting forever to get a Rube Goldberg health care prize we shouldn't even want. We also give it a name that sounds "social justice-y" and is asking for defeat and delay.
If (and it's a big if) we can get a public option in place and shore up the ACA, then we'll have the seed crystal for true national health care to grow organically, quietly, painlessly, and quickly. Call it Medicare later. It will be for all, because that's what it will be, not because we stuck the words "for all" on the end.
scipan
(3,057 posts)The candidates on the list who support M4A and won are indeed all from deep blue districts.
Polling shows a majority of Dems support it and repubs against it. However, more Dems prefer an incremental approach - ACA with a public option.
I'm a Bernie supporter in the primary.
Just facts. Do with them what you wish.