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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI talked to one of my trumper friends just now
We have known each other for 40 years and learned long ago not to discuss politics. I saw him at the store.
Him---- I guess you're glad that Biden won.
Me---- Was the election today? I forgot all about it..
Him---- Fuck you Ron!
Me--- LOL..chill dude. I am pretty stoked. I just wish Trump would concede.
Him---- Why? Does it matter?
Me--- Of course. If he doesn't concede Biden can't be president.
He brightened up then gave me a comically suspicious look. I grinned.
Him---- Fuck you Ron!
I love this guy.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,531 posts)In spite of your political stands, you are still friends.
And that is a wonderful thing.
halobeam
(4,873 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,221 posts)I know their values fundamentally opposed to mine.
MLAA
(17,252 posts)Votes for a guy
who calls war heros losers
who caused 500 plus kids to be orphans by separating the. For parents and not even keeping records
who took Putins side on Russian interference over 17 US intelligence agencies
who fucked up handling COVID resulting in at least twice as many deaths as any half ass reasonable leader would have managed to control
I cant go on.
LSFL
(1,109 posts)He just votes Republican reflexively. He is not rabid.
MLAA
(17,252 posts)summer_in_TX
(2,710 posts)those media accounts. They couldn't conceive of anyone seriously thinking of our military as suckers and losers, so it couldn't possibly be true.
They've been brainwashed. Their brains were hacked, meaning they are not fully culpable.
The evil can be correctly attributed to those who set that system up, the ultraconservative billionaires behind the conservative think tanks and FOX News, Newt Gingrich and Roger Ailes, and many others.
These poor schmucks? Yes they were hateful and racist. But those demons were fed by their media, their anger stirred up by the framing of 'heroes' vs. 'villains.' They got poisoned, slowly, without realizing what was happening. To make it worse, their media fomented deep distrust in any other media sources, making it much harder to ever break free of the miasma.
We have our own anger issues and sometimes even demonization. We too have had a framing of heroes and villains. It's true, we've got lots of heroes. But they aren't perfect. We've got lots of villains. But the schmucks are not the villains really. They're victims. The source of the evil lies elsewhere.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But I have hope. I never preach at him. And he has now admitted we need a government controlled healthcare system but somehow believes republicans will give us a good one. This is only because he makes tons of money, is self employed and pays 30K a year for his families healthcare.
The biggest problem is his wife sits at home and watches Fox News all day. I suspect she will soon switch to OON or whatever the fuck it is called.
But he is a good guy. Helps his community. His kids are solid and with my help leaning Democratic.