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SCOTUS is in a hellova positon. If they scrap Obamacare, I believe (Original Post) Boogiemack Nov 2020 OP
They are just hearing the case next week, the actual scrapping comes later. tinrobot Nov 2020 #1
Totally agree. kairos12 Nov 2020 #2
The republican party will pull any trick out of their evil book of tricks that will BComplex Nov 2020 #3
Thing was, trump was supposed to have won, and then do a curtain call... brush Nov 2020 #4
+1 pandr32 Nov 2020 #6
They should be pounding 2 issues in GA Finishline42 Nov 2020 #5
I agree...that is the winning issue. Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #14
People like political parties who didn't lose the election Shermann Nov 2020 #7
A lot may depend on his behavior over the next 2 months nuxvomica Nov 2020 #8
I'm not so sure they'll join the Dems. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #13
Taking away healthcare coverage for millions of ppl during pandemic would delegitimize this SCOTUS onetexan Nov 2020 #9
Term limits are popular SmartVoter22 Nov 2020 #10
Hear hear!! onetexan Nov 2020 #11
Problem atse Nov 2020 #12
Post wasn't about one specific case SmartVoter22 Nov 2020 #15

tinrobot

(10,927 posts)
1. They are just hearing the case next week, the actual scrapping comes later.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:36 AM
Nov 2020

Probably after the election.

kairos12

(12,896 posts)
2. Totally agree.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:42 AM
Nov 2020

But I think the tenor of the comments by the Justices will set the stage for the race in Georgia.

BComplex

(8,082 posts)
3. The republican party will pull any trick out of their evil book of tricks that will
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:01 AM
Nov 2020

keep us from getting those 2 senate seats.

I'm glad we have Stacy Abrams on our side!!

brush

(53,971 posts)
4. Thing was, trump was supposed to have won, and then do a curtain call...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:16 AM
Nov 2020

by killing Obamacare the week after the election in the Supreme Court.

But as in most things planned by this inept administration, it didn't work out.

Another one being, he's a one-term LOSER.

Woohoo!

Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
5. They should be pounding 2 issues in GA
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:32 AM
Nov 2020

Healthcare (ACA and Medicare)

Social Security

Even with Trump defeated Mitch has been pitching the cutting of SS and Medicare to offset the revenue losses of the Trump Tax cut. (I have a hard time believing that we didn't hear more about cuts in SS in this election as the Trump budget showed big cuts in both).

Buckeyeblue

(5,505 posts)
14. I agree...that is the winning issue.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:34 AM
Nov 2020

I would campaign on the fact that ACA being overturned is a done deal. And it's going to have to be replaced. The only way to do that is to have a majority in the Senate.

I think they need volunteers to put on masks and go door to door.

Shermann

(7,480 posts)
7. People like political parties who didn't lose the election
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:46 AM
Nov 2020

I suspect even more GA voters are going to jump ship over to the Blue Team the second time around. They saw the celebrations in the streets and are going to want to be a part of it.

nuxvomica

(12,463 posts)
8. A lot may depend on his behavior over the next 2 months
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:51 AM
Nov 2020

He is likely to only make himself look even more pathetic.

GoCubsGo

(32,100 posts)
13. I'm not so sure they'll join the Dems.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 08:44 AM
Nov 2020

Most will just jump ship and stay home. Trump isn't on the ticket, so a lot of them won't be motivated to get out and vote again in January, except maybe for the few that HATE Kelly Loeffler.

onetexan

(13,079 posts)
9. Taking away healthcare coverage for millions of ppl during pandemic would delegitimize this SCOTUS
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:57 AM
Nov 2020

and further solidify Dems resolve to expand the courts to rebalance it. Heck, we can place term limits on their sorry butts.
Roberts had better tread very carefully here.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
10. Term limits are popular
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 08:13 AM
Nov 2020

Term limits on all federal judicial and legislative offices would be very popular and could easuly pass as a Constitutional Amendment.
A dozen years. Hell, start with 12 for everything.

Federal Judges.... may serve one 12 year term, staggared like the Senate to replace justices.
Legislative...no more than 12 years. Four Congressional terms and Two Senate terms.

Expand the federal appealate courts to hold 12 members per bench.

atse

(42 posts)
12. Problem
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 08:35 AM
Nov 2020

There's a problem with your theory. Although the supreme court hearings on the ACA case starts very soon, the actual decision won't be announced until late spring, well after Biden is inaugurated in January. So it's unlikely the court case will have an impact on the senate run-off races.

That said, a hell of a lot can happen between now and early January when the run-offs happen. In particular, the pandemic is exploding almost exponentially. So the country is going to be a different condition then from that alone. So who knows, the run-off races might be winnable.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
15. Post wasn't about one specific case
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 09:26 AM
Nov 2020

it was to highlight the lifetime terms, and career politicians.

SCOTUS cases that originate at SCOTUS are very, very rare.
Almost every case that SCOTUS accepts has gone through the federal appellate courts, which often have argued all the aspects and challenges; like standing to file a lawsuit, that's a legislative question not one the courts can answer, etc.

I promoted term limits, which gives ample time for a federal justice to impart their own Constitutional ideology ( originalists vs fluids) within a 12 year period.
The legislative term limits afford both parties to promote candidates that want to move forward, and then have the opportunity to do so. Career pols usually have the same mindset, even if society, the economy has changed significantly over a decade or more.

Americans, since day one, have opposed lifetime jobs as similar to the divine right of a monarch,
Term limits would not stop anything or anyone from being successful in one of those lifetime jobs.

I totaly agree that SCOTUS opinions on ACA will likely not come until the last week of the SCOTUS term, which is late June 2021.
I think they hold back on quick decisions, to allow legislatures to fix a problem, thereby making the opinion moot.

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