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luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:28 AM Nov 2020

White women had doubts but voted for the Anus anyway

Heading into Election Day, forecasters predicted that Republican Donald Trump — whose ascent to the White House prompted women to organize the largest single-day protest in U.S. history — would be soundly defeated in part due to a double-digit gender gap like the country has never seen.

Instead, Democrat Joe Biden barely eked out a win, and the female electorate remained largely unchanged from 2016 and even 2012. White women who said they were having second thoughts about the president, citing their concerns about health care during the COVID-19 pandemic, his divisive racial rhetoric and even his general demeanor, ultimately chose to stand by him.

Article at:
https://19thnews.org/2020/11/white-women-had-doubts-they-voted-for-trump-anyway/

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White women had doubts but voted for the Anus anyway (Original Post) luv2fly Nov 2020 OP
My white women friends in central coast California Frances Nov 2020 #1
Same, in SE Pennsylvania. I look at it this way: Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #16
I am sorry, I need more evidence of this. The numbers are based on exit polls on Election Day. boston bean Nov 2020 #2
Thanks for pointing this out. I really don't want to hate my own demographic. I hope we Squinch Nov 2020 #4
It may be true but exit polls during a pandemic SharonClark Nov 2020 #20
Because of early voting and mail-in voting. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2020 #24
Face it. White Republicans are indoctrinated into ignorant acceptance. Its on them to change. bullimiami Nov 2020 #3
politics of grievance somehow appeals to this sector of the electorate -not just white men but women onetexan Nov 2020 #29
Dejoy & voting machines! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #5
Barely eked out a win? mcar Nov 2020 #6
This claim is based on exit polls, so not mail voters. JaneQPublic Nov 2020 #7
I'm tired of typecasting hamsterjill Nov 2020 #8
Like old white guys with goatees luv2fly Nov 2020 #9
Exactly! hamsterjill Nov 2020 #11
My husband is an old white guy with a goatee csziggy Nov 2020 #15
Hence, your axe-grinding. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #23
General discussion topic right luv2fly Nov 2020 #27
Same here. Nor have any of my friends. If someone starts a statement with "White women..." Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #14
Same here.. Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2020 #21
Again, stop believing the exit polls AkFemDem Nov 2020 #10
If that's true for CNN, and they said otherwise... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #19
Exit polls didn't factor in early voting or mail-in voting. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2020 #25
Nope, not true for CNN anyway. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #26
This is misleading just as the reports of Trump gaining among minority voters JI7 Nov 2020 #12
Not me. KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #13
Not me, nor any other women in immediate family. ananda Nov 2020 #17
People responding that the exit polls were misleading luv2fly Nov 2020 #18
Reminder: Pollsters were wrong a million ways this election. JaneQPublic Nov 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2020 #28
White women voters have broken for the Democratic presidential candidate only twice since 1952. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #30
Any demographic info on the 60,000 morons who voted for Kanye? cwydro Nov 2020 #31
I read that he got over 10K of those in TN luv2fly Nov 2020 #32

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
16. Same, in SE Pennsylvania. I look at it this way:
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:13 AM
Nov 2020

If the white women who voted for Biden had not voted for Biden, Biden would have lost. Even if every single woman of color voted for Biden. So, let's hear it for white women! True also of the White men who voted for Biden. If they had not voted for Biden, he would have lost. Same for the women of color.

It took people from many demographics to vote for Biden for him to win. And that's what happened.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
2. I am sorry, I need more evidence of this. The numbers are based on exit polls on Election Day.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:31 AM
Nov 2020

Which skewed heavily toward trump.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
4. Thanks for pointing this out. I really don't want to hate my own demographic. I hope we
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:33 AM
Nov 2020

learn something that refutes this.

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
24. Because of early voting and mail-in voting. . .
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:25 AM
Nov 2020

. . .exit polls on Election Day itself don't mean bupkis anymore.

bullimiami

(13,084 posts)
3. Face it. White Republicans are indoctrinated into ignorant acceptance. Its on them to change.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:32 AM
Nov 2020

We need to keep growing our numbers and involvement.
We outnumber them already.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
29. politics of grievance somehow appeals to this sector of the electorate -not just white men but women
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:46 AM
Nov 2020

as well. Jim Crow is alive and well in this day & age, just manifests itself in different ways:
https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-do-i-protect-my-right-to-vote-/jim-crow-laws.html

What gives me hope is, as this article points out, the crucial Trump voting bloc that drifted to Biden were the white working class.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-crucial-trump-voting-bloc-that-drifted-to-biden-173317534.html


JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
7. This claim is based on exit polls, so not mail voters.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:47 AM
Nov 2020

... according to the article.

Most Biden voters never exited any polling places because they voted by mail.

Thus, the polling sample this claim is based on is heavily slanted to Republicans who ditifully voted in person like their candidate Trump told them to and omits most Dems.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
8. I'm tired of typecasting
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:53 AM
Nov 2020

I’m an old white woman who has never voted for a Republican ANYTHING in her life.

I read the posts days ago that black men voted for Trump.

I just don’t think it’s that simple. I mean, I understand the concept of trying to understand the electorate. But if someone sees me on the street, I don’t think they should automatically think I supported Trump.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
9. Like old white guys with goatees
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:56 AM
Nov 2020

Not all of them voted for the Anus, despite the images on television.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
15. My husband is an old white guy with a goatee
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:12 AM
Nov 2020

No way he'd ever vote for Trump or any Republican! If he had, he would no longer be my husband.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. Hence, your axe-grinding.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:17 AM
Nov 2020

Figured as much with the OP, but your response pretty much verified it as such.

Tough old world, eh?

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
27. General discussion topic right
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:41 AM
Nov 2020

Article posted, reasonably healthy discussion ensues. No need for you to assume my intent. Enjoy the day.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
14. Same here. Nor have any of my friends. If someone starts a statement with "White women..."
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:11 AM
Nov 2020

there are only a few endings that are true.

...are white
...are women
...are human beings

Anything else simply is not a true statement, because "White women" by definition means ALL white women. If you don't mean all white women, then say which ones. For instance, if you want to talk about the white women who voted for Trump, say "Right wing white women voted for Trump." Much more accurate.

Millions of white women voted for Biden. Far more, by sheer numbers, than any other group of people except for women in general. Without the white women who voted for Biden, he would have lost.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
21. Same here..
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:30 AM
Nov 2020

It makes you feel responsible for how everyone else voted (all other white women) even though you have no control over them. Also seems to place blame on you for something you didn't do. We at fault for what some other people of the same gender and ethnicity did.

AkFemDem

(1,823 posts)
10. Again, stop believing the exit polls
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:57 AM
Nov 2020

They are skewed. This is continuously pointed out- these people were in person voters, they skewed pro Trump.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
19. If that's true for CNN, and they said otherwise...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:20 AM
Nov 2020

... on election night (that it included early voters), then Biden won in-person voting by about 5% around the country. That clearly wasn't the case.

I also just noticed it mentions how the absentee voters were sampled in their exit poll below -- "Absentee and early voters are represented by either telephone polls or in-person exit polls at early voting locations."

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results

Edit: The voting bloc that made the election close at all was the white evangelicals AGAIN. They overwhelmingly voted for Trump AGAIN, and they comprised about 42% of all white voters (27% white evangelicals divided by 65% of whites) which is significantly more than their percentage in everyday life. They were obviously very motivated to support their anti-Christ candidate yet again.



DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
25. Exit polls didn't factor in early voting or mail-in voting. . .
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:28 AM
Nov 2020

. . .only what went on in-person on Election Day itself.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
26. Nope, not true for CNN anyway.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:31 AM
Nov 2020
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results

"Absentee and early voters are represented by either telephone polls or in-person exit polls at early voting locations."

If indicates that Biden should win the overall popular vote by about 5%+ too, and that certainly wasn't the case among election day voters.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
12. This is misleading just as the reports of Trump gaining among minority voters
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:06 AM
Nov 2020

Most of that is based on same day voting exit polls where those who supported Trump were more likely to vote while those who supported Biden were more likely to do it earlier by mailing in their ballots.

You can see this just by how this election played out in the last few days where some key states had Trump leading by hundreds of thousands but it went down as the mailed ballots started being counted and Biden ended up winning the states.



luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
18. People responding that the exit polls were misleading
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

Agreed.

That said, too many women (and men, but we're discussing women) voted for this despicable POS and the article more broadly exposes some of their thinking. That any woman (and any man as well, but we're discussing women) can disregard the way he treats women boggles my mind. Who in the hell marries this guy? Please... may I never meet you.

I know, he mistreats everything and everyone. It's what he do.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
22. Reminder: Pollsters were wrong a million ways this election.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:12 AM
Nov 2020

These same operations said Joe was up by 17 points in Wisconsin, it was close in Ohio, Florida, and Iowa, and the Senate races were close in SC, ME, and other states. All wrong.

So now we're supposed to believe they got a representative sample of Dems who mostly voted by mail to conclude a huge longstanding gender gap against Trump miraculously transformed into a majority pro-Trump vote? Balderdash!

Response to luv2fly (Original post)

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
32. I read that he got over 10K of those in TN
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:54 AM
Nov 2020

That surprises me as he was on the ballot in a dozen states.

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