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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWomen back Obama 56 to Mitt's 38, black voters 94 to 2. Obama same as 2008 with white voters
as women are half or more of the vote, with numbers like these, it is impossible for Mitt to win
(and in Ohio he leads with rural women by a major amount, voters he did not have in 2008,
and voters that do not trust Mitt at all).
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/10/02/obama_ahead_with_strong_support_from_women.html
Obama Ahead With Strong Support from Women
A new Quinnipiac poll finds President Obama leads Mitt Romney nationally among likely voters, 49% to 45%.
Key findings: The president leads 56% to 38% among women and 94% to 2% among black voters. Men back Romney 52% to 42% while white voters back him 53% to 42%.
Said pollster Peter Brown: "President Obama won only about 43% of the white vote in 2008, so his current standing among whites tracks his earlier winning performance. If the president can match or exceed his 2008 showing among whites it will be difficult to impossible for Romney to win. It is also very difficult to win an election when you are getting shellacked among women, the group that makes up about half the electorate."
lunatica
(53,410 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Botany
(77,324 posts)"Of course you get rid of Obamacare, that's the easy one, but there are others,"
he said. "Planned Parenthood, we're going to get rid of that."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/mitt-romney-planned-parenthood_n_1343450.html
cloudbase
(6,270 posts)but meaningless unless the president's backers get out and vote. Complacency can kill you politically.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)You yell it out positive, and pile it on vote wise(and USA people love to side with a winner no matter who, time and again.)
ONLY loser side doesn't come out
The more it is inevitable, the less Mitt voters will vote
And Obama's FANS know that.
It's the Karl Roves that started the other meme about complacany, and it has never happened by the winner/leader side.
(John Kerry was never leading and was a shitty candidate.
Howard Dean's fans never spooke up when he was slandered with the phony scream issue, and sure enough Kerry and the others got Dean out of the race
Al Gore fans did not do enough to silent Ralph Nader, and guess what, Nader was the single direct cause to 2000 lose, because no one spoke up for Gore.
Jimmy Carter conceded his loss early, and sure enough, that cost house seats out west.
So the opposite is true- Yell it from the rooftop and more voters show up, not less. It has been proven time and again.
(and of course this stupid theft meme is a downer-and doesn't help either.
Kerry was not stolen, he lost.
Gore lost because of NH, if he won NH, Florida would not have mattered.
and I see Nate Silver picked up on my football analogy, however he did not state it fully.
It is now 42 to 0 late in the fourth.
Even if Mitt scores 4 TDS, he still loses. It is over.
The ball doesn't get back to Mitt enough to make a difference
stick a fork in Mitt and the repubteapartylibertarians, the party is over
(and even the real republicans will be jumping for joy as they need both Mitt/and his boy wonder to be heavily defeated so they can grab the nomination in 2016(JEB)
enough already with the faux complacency meme.
brush
(61,033 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:22 AM - Edit history (1)
I agree with just about all or your post. However, Kerry dramatically closed the gap on Bush after the debates, partly because of a photo release of an apparently hidden electronic device under Bush's jacket during one of the debates that could have been feeding him answers (see photo here http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2012). Kerry delivered a strong performance as well. Also in Ohio, Robert Kennedy jr. documented many instances of voter suppression in democratic strongholds. Thousands waited for hours in lines in inner-city Cleveland at polling places that were purposely under supplied with voting machines. Many of those people never got to vote before the polls closed. There were many other instances of repug skullduggery that suppressed up to 350,000 dem votes that would have swung Ohio and thus the election in Kerry's favor. (http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2006/06/transcript-robert-f-kennedy-jr-stolen-2004-election-jun-02-2006) So your claim that "Kerry was not stolen, he lost" is not accurate. Hell, the Ohio Secretary of State, repug Kenneth Blackwell, who supervised the election, was also the state chairman of the Bush campaign, a huge conflict of interest to say the least. And do I even have to mention what a huge incentive to manipulate the final vote count Blackwell's chairmanship of the Bush campaign was. Can you say Diebold voting machines.