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dlk

(11,509 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:57 PM Nov 2020

Thoughts on DC and Puerto Rico statehood?

The House has already passed a bill for DC statehood and the referendum in Puerto Rico just passed. I’m wondering how long it would take for both of them to write and pass a state constitution. The potential for four more Democratic senators is very appealing.

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Thoughts on DC and Puerto Rico statehood? (Original Post) dlk Nov 2020 OP
No senate, no statehood bottomofthehill Nov 2020 #1
Yes, currently that's the case dlk Nov 2020 #4
Maybe the current Republican governor can make an appeal to her fellow GOPers In It to Win It Nov 2020 #11
yup we gotta fight like heck to get Ossoff & Warnock elected to get statehoods onetexan Nov 2020 #13
Without the Senate is it moot. Statistical Nov 2020 #2
If Mitch stays majority leader... dlk Nov 2020 #6
I'm for it, but it is up to the people in Puerto Rico. dubyadiprecession Nov 2020 #3
The people in PR just voted in favor of statehood (yet again). Statistical Nov 2020 #5
In the long run, I think it worth planning for dlk Nov 2020 #8
Yes. Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #7
We need the Senate so no point in worrying about it unless we get the Senate. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #9
Something to plan for long term dlk Nov 2020 #19
I wouldn't be so sure Codeine Nov 2020 #10
Long overdue... 2naSalit Nov 2020 #12
Yes, the work continues... dlk Nov 2020 #20
Yes! mjvpi Nov 2020 #14
We really don't want to mess up the flag Shermann Nov 2020 #15
Like your sense of humor dlk Nov 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2020 #16
I think there a difference between "defund the police", a political grenade & statehood discussions dlk Nov 2020 #23
Puerto Rico has 3,194,000 plus people. D.C. has 684,500 plus. panader0 Nov 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2020 #18
I'm concerned about the lack of consensus for statehood within Puerto Rico. tritsofme Nov 2020 #22
No doubt, America is polarized dlk Nov 2020 #25
The citizens of DC & Puerto Rico deserve representation dlk Nov 2020 #24

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
2. Without the Senate is it moot.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:58 PM
Nov 2020

The process historically speaking has taken anywhere from 3 to 16 months although it probably would take a bit longer in the 21st century. Still it is deader than a doornail without a Blue Senate. There is a zero percent chance that any Republican will vote in favor of it. In fact there won't even be a vote. Mitch will ensure there is zero chance that there is even a vote or debate on it in the Senate.

dlk

(11,509 posts)
8. In the long run, I think it worth planning for
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:05 PM
Nov 2020

Republicans shouldn’t be the only ones playing the long game.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
10. I wouldn't be so sure
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:08 PM
Nov 2020

that PR would yield two Democratic senators but I still believe that statehood is the right thing.

2naSalit

(86,308 posts)
12. Long overdue...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:09 PM
Nov 2020

If we don;t have the Senate this election cycle, we can hit them again in two years.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
15. We really don't want to mess up the flag
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:39 PM
Nov 2020

50 states is a nice, even number. So we need to free up two states.

Florida has to go. I say we cut a canal across the Florida panhandle and let the rising ocean waters reclaim the state back to nature. Sorry to any DUers who live there.

Do we really need a North Dakota and a South Dakota? We can combine those into one state: "Dakota".

Response to dlk (Original post)

dlk

(11,509 posts)
23. I think there a difference between "defund the police", a political grenade & statehood discussions
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:14 PM
Nov 2020

Granted, Republicans will continue to twist Democratic narratives. We just have to untwist them, for instance: "unpacking the courts."

panader0

(25,816 posts)
17. Puerto Rico has 3,194,000 plus people. D.C. has 684,500 plus.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:49 PM
Nov 2020

Wyoming has 579,000. P.R. and D.C. have more people than Cheney's state, but zero representation
in Congress, even though they are American citizens.

Response to panader0 (Reply #17)

tritsofme

(17,367 posts)
22. I'm concerned about the lack of consensus for statehood within Puerto Rico.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:13 PM
Nov 2020

While a clear majority just supported statehood in a referendum, there were still 48% opposed.

Our union is a perpetual one, there would be no getting out for them if the political winds changed, and it would forever foreclose the possibility of self-determination.

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