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Conor Lamb won his race (Original Post) sunonmars Nov 2020 OP
Counting changes everything ucrdem Nov 2020 #1
Agree mountain grammy Nov 2020 #5
+1,000! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #6
Damn..thinking same! Imo the odious#45/USPS plot surely gained him some votes RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2020 #21
+1 Brogrizzly Nov 2020 #29
I wholly agree with this... appmanga Nov 2020 #45
Freaking WOW.. & I don't think he Won on m4a. Cha Nov 2020 #2
Yes he did! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #8
Thought so... Cheers to Cha Nov 2020 #13
Happy Delphinus Nov 2020 #3
YAY!! onetexan Nov 2020 #4
Now we need Lauren Underwood. murielm99 Nov 2020 #7
Is there still a chance? TY Muriel Cha Nov 2020 #14
I just texted my son. murielm99 Nov 2020 #26
omg.. TY! The last I heard about LU Cha Nov 2020 #27
She up by about 600 votes...the NY Times count is out of date greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #33
Oberweis is a constant pain in the ass in IL politics. Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #35
As it stands this moment, Underwood: 179,192, Oberweis: 175,294, 91% of the vote counted.... George II Nov 2020 #16
She won in 2018 by almost 15,000 votes. 3catwoman3 Nov 2020 #19
As of 1 hour ago (11/9; 9:20am)... appmanga Nov 2020 #46
This year, unfortunately, because their Orange Idol was on the ballot Bettie Nov 2020 #47
That's well out of date greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #34
Thanks, I just did. The Associated Press has called it for Congresswoman Underwood! George II Nov 2020 #36
This is not a called race at this time: Underwood leads but there are many unknown votes greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #39
She's up 584 votes greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #30
Good news! liberalla Nov 2020 #9
Great news & A big shoutout to all the postcard writers!!! bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #10
That sounds great. Sogo Nov 2020 #23
Some of them are on Twitter, just do a search in the upper right search box for postcards bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #25
Thank you. murielm99 Nov 2020 #32
No, my dear bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #37
You don't know how happy this makes me. ffr Nov 2020 #11
Biden campaigned for him when he first ran JI7 Nov 2020 #12
Yes he did, and yet he's being bashed as "losing" by some. George II Nov 2020 #15
Conor Lamb responds comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #17
Good for him. I just wish some would just tend to their own Districts and campaigns and let others.. George II Nov 2020 #18
Lamb constituent here DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #28
She should have stuck close to home helping Max Rose in Brooklyn... Historic NY Nov 2020 #41
+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #44
Unfortunately AOC is one of those ... Spazito Nov 2020 #20
Time for AOC to chill a bit. She is smart enough to know better. She is not being helpful Boogiemack Nov 2020 #22
Yes, she is still a relative newcomer and... Spazito Nov 2020 #24
We did win the House right...I checked out CBS and it was at 215 Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #38
Yes, the Democrats are still the majority... Spazito Nov 2020 #40
well said. Dems didn't have the greatest night Roc2020 Nov 2020 #49
Thank God another House seat. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #31
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #42
Congrats to Conor & Shoosh to his ultra liberal agitators! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2020 #43
Dems are at 218 now so we have the majority IronLionZion Nov 2020 #48
So not as many Dem reps lost after all Don1 Nov 2020 #50
Congratulations to him! BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #51

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,471 posts)
21. Damn..thinking same! Imo the odious#45/USPS plot surely gained him some votes
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020

.somewhere...bc once a cheater, always a cheater! The surprising [to me anyway] thing is, is that there's always someone to do his diablical bidding--where he comes out unscathed. All the while complicit GOP stands by and does nothing.

How McConnel, Graham kept their senate seats is just stunning since their policies hurt many people in their respective states. Perhaps we should recount those senate races? Some 70M Americans voted against progress, wanting to take us back to the 50s? Is that it? I'm reminded of this statement...

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

Search Snopes.com





appmanga

(1,528 posts)
45. I wholly agree with this...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 10:03 AM
Nov 2020

...there are anomalies that continue to not make sense regarding polling and results. Biden easily won Maine, so why would the polling be so off for Susan Collins? This isn't a case of pollsters reaching people who didn't want to admit to voting for Trump. And Sara Gideon did a huge disservice to her supporters with her rapid concession with many more votes to count in a ranked choice election and Collins barely over 50 percent.

In North Carolina, where the Democratic governor had an easy re-elect and Democrats narrowly won statewide offices as Attorney General and Secretary of State, did those voters decide to either largely split ticket vote for Tom Tillis, or not vote for Senate at all (the governor's race, so far, has 25,000 more votes cast)? Polling consistently had Cunningham between two and four points up, but he winds up significantly trailing what other statewide running Democrats did.

In Georgia, the Democratic candidates (Ossoff and Warnock) strongly overperformed their opponents in the mail-in vote. Trump always gives away the game, and this race (and the Pennsylvania race) show why Trump has spread so much disinformation about vote-by-mail; because, opposite to what he's said, it makes it harder to manipulate results. The Postal Service slowdown still had an effect in Georgia and NC.

All the discussion about how off the polling has been refuses to embrace Occam's Razor: the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. To me, the simplest explanation is manipulation. And not necessarily from a foreign actor.

A much deeper dive needs to be taken into these contests from top to bottom. I'm not into conspiracy theories, and fantabulous thinking. These scenarios are, at the least, odd, and beg for true scrutiny.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Yes he did!
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:37 PM
Nov 2020

(In spite of what you may have been hearing from people who don't know what the hell they're talking about.)

murielm99

(33,082 posts)
26. I just texted my son.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:30 PM
Nov 2020

He lives in Naperville. He is following it closely, and she is still ahead.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
33. She up by about 600 votes...the NY Times count is out of date
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:59 PM
Nov 2020

There's still vote out there, could go either way.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
35. Oberweis is a constant pain in the ass in IL politics.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:03 PM
Nov 2020

Grudgingly, I will admit to liking the dairy products his company sells. Life is complicated...

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. As it stands this moment, Underwood: 179,192, Oberweis: 175,294, 91% of the vote counted....
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:57 PM
Nov 2020

Underwood would be a HUGE loss in the House. She may well be the most effective of the freshman class.

3catwoman3

(29,782 posts)
19. She won in 2018 by almost 15,000 votes.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:04 PM
Nov 2020

Would that many of her supporters have turned against her in just 2 years? I’m glad to see she is in the lead. Last time I checked, she was trailing by 895.

I we lived 2 streets over, she would be our representative. She is most impressive. Oberweiss is NOT.

appmanga

(1,528 posts)
46. As of 1 hour ago (11/9; 9:20am)...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 10:25 AM
Nov 2020

According to the NYT, Underwood is currently up by 6,490 votes with greater than 98 percent of the vote in.

Bettie

(19,870 posts)
47. This year, unfortunately, because their Orange Idol was on the ballot
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

every MAGAT came out of their holes to vote.

Midterms, without their guy on the ballot, more stayed home.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
34. That's well out of date
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:01 PM
Nov 2020

Google Illinois 14 results for up to the minute vote count on Underwood v. Oberweis

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
39. This is not a called race at this time: Underwood leads but there are many unknown votes
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:08 PM
Nov 2020

still in the district.

This is not a called race.

bucolic_frolic

(55,794 posts)
10. Great news & A big shoutout to all the postcard writers!!!
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:39 PM
Nov 2020

I wonder how much effect all the postcards had on races. I was flooded with campaign literature, the stack is about 1-1/4" tall, compressed. But my two cherished pieces, which may be a part of US political history, are 2 postcards, handwritten, sent by anonymous mail - first name only - but taking the time to list the races, ask for the support and the vote. Thousands of people did this, hours on end, weeks and months, because they cared about the country.

A big shoutout to all the postcard writers!!!

Sogo

(7,300 posts)
23. That sounds great.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:13 PM
Nov 2020

I'd like to send postcards for the GA Senate races. Any idea how to sign up for that?

bucolic_frolic

(55,794 posts)
25. Some of them are on Twitter, just do a search in the upper right search box for postcards
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:26 PM
Nov 2020

seems like one of them I recall seeing is marywritespostcards, something like that.

murielm99

(33,082 posts)
32. Thank you.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:59 PM
Nov 2020

There was so much we could not do this year, because of the virus. My husband and I addressed 150 postcards. It is tedious work.

We did this, and many on our central committee did this. So did the Democrats in the county south of us, and the Indivisible members.

I have not done that in years. I phone banked instead, put literature on doors and canvassed door-to-door. There were years that we considered post card writing outmoded. It still works!

ffr

(23,447 posts)
11. You don't know how happy this makes me.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:40 PM
Nov 2020

Because Mitch is probably experiencing some IBS.

comradebillyboy

(10,963 posts)
17. Conor Lamb responds
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:59 PM
Nov 2020
Asked Rep. Lamb about this. "I don't think she really knows much about my campaign at all, or about my district. I've run now in western Pennsylvania, successfully, three times, with President Trump personally campaigning against me, over and over again."



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George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Good for him. I just wish some would just tend to their own Districts and campaigns and let others..
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:02 PM
Nov 2020

...tend to theirs.

DeminPennswoods

(17,580 posts)
28. Lamb constituent here
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:41 PM
Nov 2020

Conor Lamb seems like a nice enough guy, but he has no idea about his district. The voters in the counties he so assiduously courts as a "moderate", "centrist", "independent" soundly rejected him. He lost Beaver county, the largest land area of PA-17 by 16 pts (58-42) and his district segment of SW Butler county (57-43). You know where he won and who put him over the top? Heavily Democratic Allegheny county.

Yet Lamb will continue to bite the hand that feeds him. If a justice Dem or DSA candidate primaries him in 2022, that will be fine with me. He's done basically nothing to help the beat down mill towns here where I am. I've never seen him in my home town to either campaign or distribute federal funds.

One last thing, while my county is pretty reliably red, it was carried by Gov Wolf, an unabashed liberal and progressive in his 2018 re-election campaign.

Historic NY

(40,130 posts)
41. She should have stuck close to home helping Max Rose in Brooklyn...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:51 PM
Nov 2020

FWIW she is not like much north of NY City even thou she was born in Yorktown . That Amazon warehouse came to my county about 4 miles from where I live. They bought up an entire manufacturing plant on land my town owns on the international airport as a fulfillment center , they are hiring. They been pumping money into various business from repair shops to auto body center. There are lots of Grey vans having repairs made in my town. They just paid to relocate a 1830's house that the town was will to have demolished. They will pay for it restoration on it new nearby foundation. They have a willingness to do whatever it takes, from moving roads, to moving a historic house a few hundred feet. It was quite an operation. They even wash down the roads where truck enter and exit daily. I have some research involvement in that venture. At this point they do not seem to be the boogeyman they been played to be.

Spazito

(56,066 posts)
20. Unfortunately AOC is one of those ...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:06 PM
Nov 2020

"Some of this is criminal. It’s malpractice. Conor Lamb spent $2,000 on Facebook the week before the election. I don’t think anybody who is not on the internet in a real way in the Year of our Lord 2020 and loses an election can blame anyone else when you’re not even really on the internet."

And I’ve looked through a lot of these campaigns that lost, and the fact of the matter is if you’re not spending $200,000 on Facebook with fund-raising, persuasion, volunteer recruitment, get-out-the-vote the week before the election, you are not firing on all cylinders. And not a single one of these campaigns were firing on all cylinders.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Biden’s Win, House Losses, and What’s Next for the Left

The congresswoman said Joe Biden’s relationship with progressives would hinge on his actions. And she dismissed criticism from House moderates, calling some candidates who lost their races “sitting ducks.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/07/us/politics/aoc-biden-progressives.html

The whole article is an interesting read.

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
22. Time for AOC to chill a bit. She is smart enough to know better. She is not being helpful
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020

to progressives, moderated, the party. President Elect Biden, or herself with comments or taunting like this. I love her spunk, her intellect and her energy but her wisdom is lacking.

Spazito

(56,066 posts)
24. Yes, she is still a relative newcomer and...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:18 PM
Nov 2020

the learning curve can be steep. Experience will temper her tendency to speak without taking into consideration the consequences of her words in the larger picture. I think she has a bright future providing she is open to learning.

Spazito

(56,066 posts)
40. Yes, the Democrats are still the majority...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:15 PM
Nov 2020

by a comfortable margin. The Dems won 40 seats in 2018 and it looks like there were a loss of 7 or possibly only 5 in this last election.

I have to admit I don't understand the kerfuffle about these few losses, especially as they are, from what I gather, in Districts which, until 2018, were reliably republican seats.

Democrats came out in record numbers but so did republicans so there should be little surprise those few seats were lost.

Post election analysis is important but it needs to be done 'surgically' and not emotionally, imo.

Roc2020

(1,793 posts)
49. well said. Dems didn't have the greatest night
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:16 PM
Nov 2020

but still had a strong election night. Trump is gone. Kept the House. And GA puts the Senate in play. Ok.

Don1

(1,672 posts)
50. So not as many Dem reps lost after all
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:36 PM
Nov 2020

Tone down the anti-progressive rhetoric by 20%?

We shouldn't be fighting anyway.

We need to organize against the Coup!

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