Where are the calls to get to know the Biden voter?

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Eugene Scott @Eugene_Scott 2h
“The former vice president could win as many as 306 electoral votes, exactly Trump’s 2016 haul. Yet there is no clamor for Republicans to get to know ‘the Biden voter,’” ⁦@EJDionne https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dont-define-bidens-victory-down/2020/11/08/ea3dbe4e-207c-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html

____Consider that in 2016, Trump won only 46 percent of the popular vote, losing it to Hillary Clinton by nearly 2.9 million ballots. He carried the three key states by minuscule margins — Michigan by 10,704, Wisconsin by 22,748 and Pennsylvania by 44,292.

Yet conservative commentators used this flimsy victory to insist that the media, liberals, academics and “coastal people” bow before the altar of “the Trump voter.” (As it happens, most Democrats, and particularly Biden, needed no lessons in empathy for working-class voters — of all races.) A thuggish Republican whose share of the vote was barely larger than John McCain’s in 2008 and smaller than Mitt Romney’s in 2012 was suddenly the prophet of a new age.

Now, look at what Biden achieved. He won the vote with 75 million ballots — more than any presidential candidate in history — and enjoys a lead of more than 4 million that is likely to grow substantially.

Biden’s margins in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are comparable to Trump’s in 2016 while his margin in Michigan is more than 10 times larger. The former vice president could win as many as 306 electoral votes, exactly Trump’s 2016 haul.

Yet there is no clamor for Republicans to get to know “the Biden voter,” no call on conservatives to be more in touch with the country they live in.

read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dont-define-bidens-victory-down/2020/11/08/ea3dbe4e-207c-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html
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...a clear majority of Americans live in blue 'coastal' states.

Red states (and others) should recognize the results of this election where the vast majority of Americans who voted for Joe Biden did not materialize from their communities, but from districts which are decidedly less conservative.

[Solly Mack]

1. K&R

[kacekwl]

2. Exactly.

[treestar]

3. +1

[The Roux Comes First]

4. And From All Evidence, Joe Did Not Benefit from (or Even Solicit!) Foreign Aid

Certainly cannot be said for the yam with the ever-so-tiny margins.

[Wounded Bear]

5. Indeed!

All these calls for us to "get to know" the rubes in flyover country while they're basically telling us go go fuck ourselves are kind of tiresome.

[bigtree]

6. kick

[BlueNProud]

7. You gotta wave a Confederate flag to be a real American

[StarfishSaver]

8. Where are the calls for Republicans to assess why black women won't vote for them?

[moose65]

11. Exactly!

You never hear anything about that, or this: Why can't Republicans connect with urban voters??

[Caliman73]

15. Oh that one is easy. Something about a plantation.

Seriously, there was even a Black Democratic representative I believe from Georgia who was saying that over the weekend.

It is ridiculous. We can certainly say that the Democratic Party has not done enough to fight for the issues that are important in the Black community, but Republicans could not give less of a shit about Black people. There is no comparison between the parties. Republicans are horrible for any minority or marginalized group.

[Bettie]

16. Probably because the already know why

and they don't want to hear the answers they'd get.

[StarfishSaver]

17. I don't think that's what it is

I think it's that black women are always marginalized in the society. We're not seen as worth the effort, despite how many times we prove the exponential value we bring to everything

[Bettie]

18. I can see that too

but, frankly, the right wing should fear Black women.

Forever, they have done everything with nothing.

Give them resources and they save us, over and over.

We don't deserve it, but I, for one am thankful for Black women.

Ah, I don't know that I am expressing what I'm trying to say correctly, but I gave it a shot.

[dawg]

9. "Why are Republicans having such a hard time connecting with the educated voter?"

[greenjar_01]

10. No calls for Republicans to try to understand why they lose urban centers 80-20

Remarkable.

[bigtree]

13. no acknowledgement that most Americans live in those cities

[moose65]

12. Yep!

And how come Republicans are never asked, "How will you reach across the aisle to find bipartisan solutions?"

[jayfish]

14. ...

[Caliman73]

19. It is baked into the ideology.

I have said this before and will keep repeating it. There is a fundamental difference in which Democratic Party members and Republicans see the function of government, the concept of governing, and voting. It has to do with the basis of the respective ideologies.

Democrats, who are typically of the Liberal/Progressive mindset see government as a tool by which the benefits of society are disbursed as widely and equitably as possible. Government for liberals, is best when the people are INFORMED and ACTIVE. We believe in governing by consent. We believe or aspire to the idea that everyone's voice and vote should count equally in the selection of our representatives. Some of our core ideas as Liberals/Progressives are a trust for empiricism and expertise, that power is derived from the people and that those with the best ideas and plans should be placed into positions of trust, and that a person's character, efforts, and the challenges they had to overcome, should be taken into account.

Republicans who are typically of the Conservative mindset, see government as a tool by which the "natural order of things" is supported. By "natural order of things" I mean, that conservatives believe that there is fundamental inequality in people. Some are just better than others and by that, they mean that Wealthy White Protestant Christian Men are better than others. Their ideology follows from the very same ideology that supported Royalism (monarchy). When monarchs and aristocracy began to lose power, conservatives scrambled to find a different standard by which "the natural leaders" should be chosen and that became Wealth (along with the other traits I listed). Conservatives believe that they govern by right of their superiority. They still believe in the same "mandate by god" that kings and queens did, except they have decided that the wealthy are more worthy because at some point, someone earned that wealth rather than got it by birthright. Conservatives se democracy as "mob rule" and inefficient and ineffective and antithetical to their deserved positions of power by virtue of their wealth. The reason why so much religion is put into the conservative message is that for those who are not wealthy, they have to believe that there is some divine presence working on behalf of the conservative movement, otherwise they are just being duped.

That is why there is not a call to understand or respect any group of Democratic voters. They don't care because they think they have a divine right to be in power so our ideas are just based on banal things.

[crickets]

20. More like this, please!

The trump voter has grown so loud and obnoxious over the past four years, there's no way to claim we don't all know who they are, what they think, and why.

It's high time the rest of us and the issues important to us get a turn, given the Democratic candidate we voted for won.

Democrats have won a popular vote majority in three of the last four presidential elections; Republicans have won the popular vote only once in the last 28 years. The country is changing in ways profoundly challenging to the GOP and the right. They’re the ones who should start worrying about being out of touch.