Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

albacore

(2,437 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:25 PM Nov 2020

WTF....I mean.... white women....WTAF!!

55% of white women voters voted for trump this election.
That's more than the 52% of white women voters who voted for trump in 2016.
WTF... just WTF!?

I - foolishly - expected that white women would see trump's misogyny, his hatred of ANYthing that women seem to value, and his boorishness, and reject him soundly.
Am I such an idealist and feminist supporter that I don't recognize that white women can vote against their own interests... even when it's so blatant?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2020/exit-polls/presidential-election-exit-polls/?fbclid=IwAR2b_wJZjMElGlW5maj-983DmeCnUl6P-R33lJz8HhjMSaXxnjYCXhBV_Kc#fullresults-president?itid=lk_inline_manual_20

98 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
WTF....I mean.... white women....WTAF!! (Original Post) albacore Nov 2020 OP
not in California still_one Nov 2020 #1
There's more to the election than CA. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #6
I know. My point was that I suspect most blue states reflected that also still_one Nov 2020 #30
I wish they all could be California...voters Cirque du So-What Nov 2020 #10
+1 treestar Nov 2020 #86
I share your horror.... bleedingulcers Nov 2020 #2
You mean you never saw those photos of white women standing by the hanging tree holding Boogiemack Nov 2020 #79
45% went for Biden treestar Nov 2020 #87
Is this exit poll data? Could be skewed. Beakybird Nov 2020 #3
It's comparing apples to apples. Exit polling data from 2016 to 2020... albacore Nov 2020 #84
I wouldn't put any stock in exit polls this time around. BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #4
threaten to abolish the police - bad things happen... n/t getagrip_already Nov 2020 #5
Who "threatened" to do that? Joe Biden? maxsolomon Nov 2020 #47
just google it... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #74
I don't need to "Google it", I already conceded that activists and Progressive Dems said it. maxsolomon Nov 2020 #76
And my point... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #77
Those who did do it hurt the Dems overall treestar Nov 2020 #88
When the Floyd Protests started, maxsolomon Nov 2020 #94
Well surely they don't want Dotard re-elected treestar Nov 2020 #96
Is that the 2020 version of 2016's 'they are the economically left behind' excuse made to deflect Celerity Nov 2020 #56
rwtp doesn't belong here uponit7771 Nov 2020 #58
"RWTP"? maxsolomon Nov 2020 #80
Yes. And it's silly, didn't Clyburn say that? treestar Nov 2020 #89
Compartmentalization Steelrolled Nov 2020 #7
I hoped so as well Bettie Nov 2020 #8
They in essence approve of his behavior Resistance1 Nov 2020 #9
Fuck 'um. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #11
misogyny? Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #93
almost half the voters in this country Kali Nov 2020 #12
Exit polls for this election... Spazito Nov 2020 #13
Was about to post this Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #20
Yes, nothing about this election is traditional... Spazito Nov 2020 #25
Also, weren't the majority of those who voted in person republican? Most Democrats either smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #57
Exactly... Spazito Nov 2020 #64
Read my post... #84. This isn't about exit polls alone. nt albacore Nov 2020 #95
Yes, it will be a long time before these numbers can be really known treestar Nov 2020 #97
Is this out of people who voted in person on Election Day? I need more information. n/t Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #14
Voters are not rational actors. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #15
True. We think if we just explain things to them they'll see the light and accept it Walleye Nov 2020 #26
Stop trying. Polly Hennessey Nov 2020 #16
Let's face it. BKDem Nov 2020 #17
They will be sorry when they see how their sons turn out with this kind of example we've been living Walleye Nov 2020 #18
What the fuck is wrong with my gender and race? onecaliberal Nov 2020 #19
Subconscious fear maxsolomon Nov 2020 #48
"I don't recognize that white women can vote against their own interests." WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #21
Not me. we can do it Nov 2020 #22
Evangelical protestant women is my guess. They voted against a woman's right to choose. japple Nov 2020 #23
He got a high proportion of Catholic voters, too. Mariana Nov 2020 #42
He got my Catholic cousins maxsolomon Nov 2020 #50
I agree that's a big part of it. yardwork Nov 2020 #73
There are also Catholics so obsessed by this treestar Nov 2020 #98
Being a white woman, I believe this is evidence that the vote was hacked. Sogo Nov 2020 #24
Finally! I can't believe this thread grew this long before your sane response se Iwasthere Nov 2020 #38
White women voters have broken for the Democratic presidential candidate only twice since 1952. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #52
THANK YOU !!! See the polling thread (link inside) uponit7771 Nov 2020 #59
In Iowa Cairycat Nov 2020 #27
White women voters have broken for the Democratic presidential candidate only twice since 1952. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #28
The Exit Polling Was Done via Landline-Based Phone Interviews greennewdeal350 Nov 2020 #71
Okay but in a historic context it's utterly unsurprising, I'm saying. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #72
Law and order pushed them over. Peregrine Took Nov 2020 #29
White women are not voting against their own interests. MaryMagdaline Nov 2020 #31
There are a lot of women, especially evangelical women, who vote the way their husbands tell them to redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #32
I have heard this all over the place and waiting for the numbers. I heard POC overwhelmingly came LizBeth Nov 2020 #33
Exit polls don't include the vast masses of people who voted by mail. Squinch Nov 2020 #34
Trashing this divisive thread. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #35
Think I'm going to wait for a full and complete analyses of the poll results peggysue2 Nov 2020 #36
58% of white men supported Trump BainsBane Nov 2020 #37
Since so many votes H2O Man Nov 2020 #39
Only 4 of every 10 white voters vote for a Democrat. Greybnk48 Nov 2020 #40
Please stop throwing people in buckets. AnyFunctioningAdult Nov 2020 #41
They aren't voting against their own interests. Mariana Nov 2020 #43
Meh. My identify group is better than your identity group. jalan48 Nov 2020 #44
Maybe This is Vote Rigging in Disguise? greennewdeal350 Nov 2020 #45
White women voters have broken for the Democratic presidential candidate only twice since 1952. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #49
+1, there's no doubt somethings wrong uponit7771 Nov 2020 #61
Are these day of exit polls? BainsBane Nov 2020 #46
White women are white and they benefit from institutional racism. aidbo Nov 2020 #51
It's a worthless exit poll kcr Nov 2020 #53
This BGBD Nov 2020 #55
why? tia uponit7771 Nov 2020 #62
Why? kcr Nov 2020 #65
" Because first of all, exit polls are generally unreliable" This is false elsewhere in world ... uponit7771 Nov 2020 #66
The fact it's false elsewhere in the world kcr Nov 2020 #68
"Defund the police" hosed us... SMC22307 Nov 2020 #54
Something is wrong with the counting of the votes. UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #60
Evidence? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #63
A U S. post office (in TN) was broken into (4x) Just Before Election Day greennewdeal350 Nov 2020 #67
To those rejecting this: white men were 58% mathematic Nov 2020 #69
Well said. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #70
It's a difference of 3% BainsBane Nov 2020 #75
That was only election day polls, so that's mostly Reps, so 45% of them didn't on election day? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #78
It's based on phone calls BainsBane Nov 2020 #82
Trust issues.... indeed! Brainfodder Nov 2020 #83
Not surprising Tink41 Nov 2020 #81
That shows a slight disadvantage to GOTV the white woman vote treestar Nov 2020 #85
I know women who allow their husbands to tell them how to vote. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Nov 2020 #91
come on man Nimble_Idea Nov 2020 #92

treestar

(82,383 posts)
86. +1
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:53 PM
Nov 2020


Biden got 64%. The only state going higher for Biden was Vermont! Correction : MA even higher than VT!

bleedingulcers

(51 posts)
2. I share your horror....
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:27 PM
Nov 2020

I'd change my gender and/or my race if I thought such a thing possible. Such a sad state of affairs....

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
79. You mean you never saw those photos of white women standing by the hanging tree holding
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:46 PM
Nov 2020

the hands of their small children? Too horrible to post but check out the Internet. Many are as hateful as their hooded husbands.

albacore

(2,437 posts)
84. It's comparing apples to apples. Exit polling data from 2016 to 2020...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:51 PM
Nov 2020

It's certainly possible that both are skewed, but 90% (Gallup) of Republican women approved of trump before the election, and since white Republican women vote Republican, so it seems reasonable that they voted for trump.
94% of black women voted for Biden.
Evangelical women... Republicans all...went big for trump, and evangelicals are 25% of Christians.

OK... it might be skewed, but it's certainly logical. Numerically logical, that is.
Why would ANY woman vote for that misogynist asshole, I have no idea.

maxsolomon

(33,784 posts)
47. Who "threatened" to do that? Joe Biden?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:55 PM
Nov 2020

I don't remember that speech.

Abolish, Defund, De-militarize, Reform, De-escalate, all are imperfect terms for the type of re-imagining, re-conceptualizing of what America needs in Public Safety. Bottom line, we need less people, less Black and Brown people in particular, summarily and extrajudicially executed by Police gunfire.

It's time for the critics of "Abolish" or "Defund" to propose better terms instead of just carping about what protestors and academics and progressive Congress members who cannot enact major policy shifts said. Protestors and academics and progressive Congress members who have an actual point that White People don't want to listen to.

getagrip_already

(15,716 posts)
74. just google it...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:01 PM
Nov 2020

Very prominent dems said it. I'm not going into it. Let's just say it's not a rwtp.

You can also ask james clyburn. Hardly a rw'r.

maxsolomon

(33,784 posts)
76. I don't need to "Google it", I already conceded that activists and Progressive Dems said it.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:19 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:13 PM - Edit history (1)

But neither Biden nor Harris said it, and neither Biden nor Harris supported it.

I said it, and I believe it needs to happen, but I also know it's not going to happen.

getagrip_already

(15,716 posts)
77. And my point...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:41 PM
Nov 2020

Is that it is an extremely not smart thing to say during a national election. While it might play well in certain corners or our party, it does not play well in most of america.

It was a feel good blast of anger. I get that. But next time we need to choose our words to what we mean, not what the rw will twist them into.

If you really want to abolish the police, then by all means use the phrase. If you mean de-militarize, or reform hiring/training/policy, then say that instead.

I fully support de-militarizing police. I fully support changing hiring criteria to get more level headed recruits, change how they are trained to react to both force and resistance, and change how incidents are handled up to and including termination and prosecution. fwiw.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
88. Those who did do it hurt the Dems overall
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:58 PM
Nov 2020

Of course the media helps. Not like their extremists hurt them.

maxsolomon

(33,784 posts)
94. When the Floyd Protests started,
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:32 PM
Nov 2020

BLM activists had other concerns on their minds than crafting Centrist messaging that comforted White Women.

For instance: Black Lives Mattering.




treestar

(82,383 posts)
96. Well surely they don't want Dotard re-elected
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 06:01 PM
Nov 2020

And their slogan did them no good either.

I'll pass on your snotty comments.

Celerity

(45,158 posts)
56. Is that the 2020 version of 2016's 'they are the economically left behind' excuse made to deflect
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:09 PM
Nov 2020

from the reality that the majority of white US female voters are racist and/or support racists?

Bettie

(16,451 posts)
8. I hoped so as well
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

turns out, the majority of white women are just as awful as white men.

I should have expected it, given my evangelical relatives and their hatred for anything approaching decency and kindness.

Baitball Blogger

(47,187 posts)
11. Fuck 'um.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:29 PM
Nov 2020

Makes everything they say under the concept of fear, more suspect. What can you conclude, here? That they fear socialism more than they fear misogyny?

Nimble_Idea

(1,949 posts)
93. misogyny?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:18 PM
Nov 2020

Would anyone know that big word?

All I know is, a great many heard about the invasion of the suburbs. And then rump asked politely for suburban women to like him....and they did. That's all it took.

Spazito

(51,640 posts)
13. Exit polls for this election...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:29 PM
Nov 2020

are questionable this election due to the overwhelming number of mail in ballots, imo.

Spazito

(51,640 posts)
25. Yes, nothing about this election is traditional...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:33 PM
Nov 2020

The Washington Post clarifies in their article that the numbers are preliminary which means they will continue to change using their methodology which, imo, has limited viability.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
57. Also, weren't the majority of those who voted in person republican? Most Democrats either
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:12 PM
Nov 2020

voted early or voted by mail/absentee. I would think that would skew the results a bit.

Spazito

(51,640 posts)
64. Exactly...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:26 PM
Nov 2020

The very nature of how people voted in this election makes the exit polls' accuracy very much in question, imo.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
97. Yes, it will be a long time before these numbers can be really known
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 06:04 PM
Nov 2020

Making some of the remarks likely one day irrelevant.

Walleye

(32,101 posts)
26. True. We think if we just explain things to them they'll see the light and accept it
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:33 PM
Nov 2020

It’s like trying to convince a woman to break up with an abusive boyfriend.

Polly Hennessey

(6,962 posts)
16. Stop trying.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:30 PM
Nov 2020

Those are the women you will never reach. To be honest, I am convinced they are not worth our time. They see the world through their white husband’s eyes. Don’t count on or try to change them, it won’t work. I know because I have two in my family.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,833 posts)
21. "I don't recognize that white women can vote against their own interests."
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:31 PM
Nov 2020

White women who vote for Trump are voting for their own interests, it's just that you are expecting their interests to be something else. Many white women have found that it's easier to give up gender solidarity than white supremacy.

Mariana

(14,879 posts)
42. He got a high proportion of Catholic voters, too.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:47 PM
Nov 2020

Not a majority of them like he did with the Protestants, but still a lot.

yardwork

(62,346 posts)
73. I agree that's a big part of it.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:48 PM
Nov 2020

I know some of them. Mealy mouthed "Christians" who want everyone to think they're "nice."

treestar

(82,383 posts)
98. There are also Catholics so obsessed by this
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 06:06 PM
Nov 2020

that they know they are otherwise voting against their own interests. They can't get past this. Though they don't even need the Dotard to continue to be President as they have the court 6-3.

Sogo

(5,166 posts)
24. Being a white woman, I believe this is evidence that the vote was hacked.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:33 PM
Nov 2020

I just don't believe that statistic!

There are so many women who have experienced a-holes like Trump in their lives - profession, home, socially, organizations - that I'm sure they would not vote for them!

Iwasthere

(3,227 posts)
38. Finally! I can't believe this thread grew this long before your sane response se
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:43 PM
Nov 2020

A month ago reports were clearly showing Biden's support from those very same woman.

uponit7771

(90,534 posts)
59. THANK YOU !!! See the polling thread (link inside)
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:16 PM
Nov 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214512051

Its either polling should NEVER EVER be believed in the US again without major reform

or

The voting machines were way the hell off but Trump couldn't overcome the juggernaut of votes


You're braver than I am

Cairycat

(1,724 posts)
27. In Iowa
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:33 PM
Nov 2020

All the R's ads hit on fear of rioting really hard, not just Trump's ads but our congressional races too. That may have overcome any disgust with his misogyny.

 

greennewdeal350

(61 posts)
71. The Exit Polling Was Done via Landline-Based Phone Interviews
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:43 PM
Nov 2020

Statistically, landliners tend to be older. New exit polling needs to be done that polls cellphone-equipped, white women who each mailed or dropped off their paper ballot. Getting that cellphone-based calling list is the challenge.

Peregrine Took

(7,451 posts)
29. Law and order pushed them over.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:36 PM
Nov 2020

The rioting and looting pushed two of my friends to trump.

Both are older suburban grandmothers who aren't ordinarily political at all but those night time videos that ran so much on cable news frightened them right into the trump camp.

MaryMagdaline

(6,922 posts)
31. White women are not voting against their own interests.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:38 PM
Nov 2020

They are keeping themselves, their white husbands, and their white children, on top. WW (like me) have benefitted greatly from affirmative action, and once the doors opened, they slammed the doors right behind them.
Trust me, they assume since I’m white, that I’m one of them. Not a single one will use the N word, but the conversation always gets around to Affirmative Action and how their white children will lose out in the job market because of “diversity.” Poll the word “diversity” in the suburbs and see the psychotic reactions that will flow.
White Women are damn good at pretend virtue. See Susan Collins.

redstatebluegirl

(12,271 posts)
32. There are a lot of women, especially evangelical women, who vote the way their husbands tell them to
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:38 PM
Nov 2020

I see it down here in Oklahoma all the time. The obey thing is really strong with some people.

LizBeth

(9,985 posts)
33. I have heard this all over the place and waiting for the numbers. I heard POC overwhelmingly came
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:39 PM
Nov 2020

out Biden then yesterday read they did not hit HRC numbers, so though these initial numbers are disappointing, I will wait and see.

Squinch

(51,352 posts)
34. Exit polls don't include the vast masses of people who voted by mail.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

I'll believe this statistic when it is based on something more dependable than an exit poll.

peggysue2

(11,042 posts)
36. Think I'm going to wait for a full and complete analyses of the poll results
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:41 PM
Nov 2020

The initial information also claimed 18% of the AA male community voted for Trump and that a 4% shift was noted (4%-8%) in black women. That just sounds hinky to me. I may be proven wrong but I'm willing to wait for additional analysts weighing in.

BainsBane

(53,293 posts)
37. 58% of white men supported Trump
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:43 PM
Nov 2020

According to that same exit poll. Yet somehow white men love nothing more than to blame white women. This is an old story that we heard endlessly from white men in 2016, despite the fact their margins for Trump were far greater.

White people in general vote Republican. Fortunately, a sizable minority of us don't.

Greybnk48

(10,249 posts)
40. Only 4 of every 10 white voters vote for a Democrat.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:45 PM
Nov 2020

That's according to someone on MSNBC. No wonder the repukes fear minorities, that are soon to be the majority.

Did anyone else hear this last week?

Mariana

(14,879 posts)
43. They aren't voting against their own interests.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:48 PM
Nov 2020

Their interests clearly aren't what you think they are.

 

greennewdeal350

(61 posts)
45. Maybe This is Vote Rigging in Disguise?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

I posted about this already. It is incredible.



Watch this and be even more incensed:

www.democracynow.org/2020/11/5/2020_election_ballots_electoral_college

BainsBane

(53,293 posts)
46. Are these day of exit polls?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:54 PM
Nov 2020

If so, they miss the great majority of Democratic votes.

But don't let that stop you from seizing the opportunity to attack white women, who--according to this exit poll-- voted GOP at a lower percentage than white men. I've seen this game before, and it couldn't be more transparent.

kcr

(15,396 posts)
65. Why?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:30 PM
Nov 2020

Because first of all, exit polls are generally unreliable. Second, this is particularly true this time around with so many votes by mail.

uponit7771

(90,534 posts)
66. " Because first of all, exit polls are generally unreliable" This is false elsewhere in world ...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:31 PM
Nov 2020

... no other country puts up with bad polling in their country for this long tilted towards one party.

In America polling is earth splitting horrible elsewhere its pretty reliable.

This is a water is wet point of fact

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
54. "Defund the police" hosed us...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:06 PM
Nov 2020

no matter who did or didn't say it. Republicans played it to death in their attack ads with images of American cities burning.

 

greennewdeal350

(61 posts)
67. A U S. post office (in TN) was broken into (4x) Just Before Election Day
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

Maybe mail-in ballots were stolen and then fake exit polling fabricated to cover the theft. Maybe vote tabulator computers were rigged. Those systems wirelessly communicate with electronic voting machines. Forensics must be performed...and soon. Focus groups contradict the white women voting block claim. That should be investigated as well.

mathematic

(1,452 posts)
69. To those rejecting this: white men were 58%
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:38 PM
Nov 2020

Do you reject that result too? Or just the 55% result for white women? These numbers are essentially the same. Slightly more than half of all white men and women supported trump.

If you do reject the exit poll result then where did trumps votes come from? He got the 2nd most votes in history in the highest turnout election in 120 years (according to election night estimates).

No, the answer is white people love trump. There is virtually no difference between white men and white women in their support for trump. Stop trying to give white women a pass for their trump support.

White women that support trump are not voting against their interests any more than "the white working class" vote against their interests when they vote republican in general. For emphasis: YOUR INTERESTS ARE NOT THEIR INTERESTS. These people vote for systemic racism. They vote for anti-abortion laws. They hate the things you love. That IS their interest. You don't convince them by telling them the other guy is actually the guy that supports their interests. You can only convince them if you change their interests.

BainsBane

(53,293 posts)
75. It's a difference of 3%
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:19 PM
Nov 2020

the same difference between Biden and Obama's popular vote count. That's not nothing.

The exit polls might be accurate, but they have yet to be weighted, as the caution at the beginning of the article says.

BainsBane

(53,293 posts)
82. It's based on phone calls
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:15 PM
Nov 2020

and the results haven't yet been weighted. Given how poor their polling methodology is during the pre-election season, I don't see any reason to believe this is much better.

Tink41

(537 posts)
81. Not surprising
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:14 PM
Nov 2020

Over the years probably because of Facebook, I've learned of my long ago classmates political leanings. Astonished is the right word.
I gave it years of thought, how could they be conservatives when.... comparing past behaviors, life style etc. And the one thing that
showed up again and again was living a life that revolves around the man. His interests, his needs, likes, dislikes. They don't find anything odd about saying their husband is babysitting the kids. They are quite content living in a "box" and you don't come out of it.
You know girls do this and boys do that. I kid you not. Any woman I've come across that is a Trump supporter does show in some way
being very comfortable as a defined role. Quite accepting of boys will be boys and women are there to provide service, and eye candy.

One of my best friends likes to say I was the wild one. She was a pregnant teen, she sold pink hearts for her gang member boyfriend from the city, in High School. She was put into a program for troubled teens. I almost had whiplash after hearing that. I did none of those things, was always independent, did my own thing, never went along w the crowd. That is what she considered wild.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
85. That shows a slight disadvantage to GOTV the white woman vote
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:53 PM
Nov 2020

likely the extra 2% didn't vote in 2016. I don't see it as likely that 2% of WW voters went from Hillary to Dotard.

The turnout issue is no longer simple.

Though this poll is not thought so good. But another issue is naive apolitical voters who show up to vote dutifully but don't know anything about the candidates - some could be people who think things are OK for them so they vote for the incumbent. Then again, with Covid, that sounds dumb. But then a lot of people are, even colleged educated.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
90. I know women who allow their husbands to tell them how to vote.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:01 PM
Nov 2020

Shocking. Sad. But true. They have no interest in politics and so they "gift" their vote to their husbands.

Response to albacore (Original post)

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»WTF....I mean.... white w...