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Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:33 PM Nov 2020

Now be honest with me.. are you just so proud of who we have as the next President

I am bursting at the seams... we have an actual President getting down and getting to work. While meantime, at the golf course the current resident of the white house is tweeting firing of his Defense Secretary.. an actual walking talking President who knows what he is doing vs a reality star who has screwed up everything he has ever touched.

Someone posted this back in February and I bookmarked it.. instead of putting up the original op (not fighting the primaries that is over). I will just post what they posted and know how proud I am of Joe Biden..

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Washington Post

After a fourth-place finish in Iowa and a fifth-place finish in New Hampshire, it’s time to take a good, hard look at former vice president Joe Biden, the once-dominant, now-floundering Democratic “front-runner.” Not to get too technical about it, but I would like to postulate that the Democratic front-runner should be, you know, in front.

A fourth- and fifth-place finish does not in any way constitute being in front. Yes: To run on electability, one should demonstrate the ability to be elected. That’s a trope that’s illustrated by — and stick with me here — winning elections. And perhaps the guy who ran for president three previous times but never placed better than fourth was an odd choice to make the case for electability in the first place.

...snip...

Biden has distorted the whole 2020 primary cycle: He sat on the top of the polls as the default front-runner for months, and in the process, he sucked up endorsements (five senators, more than two dozen House members, state-level elected officials all over the place) and cash (though perhaps not enough of it) that could have gone to other candidates who, instead, wound up having to drop out for lack of money and establishment support. And then he lost the first two elections. It’s only since his front-runner status started to slip that other centrist candidates have had much of a chance. The promise of Biden’s electability kept former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg from entering the race until November, and as New York magazine put it, “almost single-handedly stunted the growth of every other center-left alternative.” Biden took up the space that could have been occupied by an Amy Klobuchar or a Pete Buttigieg or a Cory Booker or a Kamala D. Harris, well before Bernie Sanders set off a panic among party insiders by winning the early contests.

It did, in fairness, almost seem like it could work. For a while, it looked like being chosen by Barack Obama might be enough for Biden to squeak by while Sanders and Elizabeth Warren engaged in mutual progressive destruction. He could coast on his eight years of being a completely fine vice president, an almost-incumbent.

But he wasn’t doing what needed to be done in a modern campaign. He didn’t go on Rachel Maddow, and he didn’t do selfie lines or Periscope or any of the other stuff that all the other modern candidates did. Biden is not, to put it mildly, a digital native. And even when the punditry class believed that he would win the hearts of white working-class men in diners, even then, Biden had trouble raising money because he just isn’t that good at this, and old clips show he has never been very good at this.

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sboatcar

(415 posts)
1. He's not my ideal candidate, but out of all of them I think he's the only one who could have beaten
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:34 PM
Nov 2020

Trump. I also think he's so caring and compassionate and empathetic. When he starts talking about stuff like that it brings tears to my eyes. I hope its going to be a good next 4 years.

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
2. YEP! It's not just Joe...it's the entire TEAM
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:36 PM
Nov 2020

He'll surround himself with the best and very brightest in DC. I'm expecting huge strides toward just plain old normalcy.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
4. He's a normal guy, unlike the current unstable idiot, and...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:41 PM
Nov 2020

... he's clearly going to favor merit and competency over butt-kissing.

We'll be in good hands!

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
5. I was with him from the get go
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:42 PM
Nov 2020

How could we not win I thought. Was shocked by his numbers in the beginning but not convinced by any other candidate. Thanks to Clyburn we got it done!

Phoenix61

(16,999 posts)
6. He knows how government is supposed to work.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:42 PM
Nov 2020

I can’t imagine someone with no experience in government being able to clean up the mess Twitler has made of everything as fast as Biden will be able to. He has the connections to get good people.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
8. Peace of course as soon as I saw this I looked up the OP...and I was surprised at who posted it.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:44 PM
Nov 2020

But it is over and most on that thread (not you) were wrong. I am so proud that Biden has beaten Trump and is such a decent man. I always supported Biden and so did you. And we were right. He was the candidate who could beat Trump...I honestly don't think anyone else would have done so. I posted map after map showing the blue wall and how Biden would rebuild it and he did...you posted the same. I never in my wildest dreams thought we would get Arizona and Georgia...icing on the cake. In the end though, DU came around and enthusiastically voted for Biden/Harris. K&R

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
10. I was in my downtown when we found out he won..
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:47 PM
Nov 2020

and I broke down and cried.. tears of joy.. I just could not hold back.. I am so proud of how he has been able to negotiate this territory in dealing with a madman.. it was a long and windy road but we made it Demsrule.. we made it

Hugin

(33,111 posts)
9. What sticks out to me and what I've observed now about...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:44 PM
Nov 2020

President-elect Biden is: While, "Biden is not, to put it mildly, a digital native." He is very aware of it and counters by consulting and appointing those who are.

An admirable trait, indeed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. A column by Molly Jong-Fast that was wrong, wrong, wrong
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:50 PM
Nov 2020

and far from innocently so.

All those who pushed that notion, that Biden's incredible popularity across the nation wasn't real and just vanished -- poof!!! -- after some white spoilers in whitey-white NH and IA tried to throw the primary to Sanders (not supported by America's AA), were dishonest with dishonest agendas. They'd all seen months of polls and knew the truth.

Biden's great support across the nation, including in SC, was real (and enduring from beginning to end), and honest people knew his totals would soar once the race moved on to more normally diverse states and states with liberal-dominated cities.

Notably, none of the other candidates ever broke out of the "second tier" far below the lead held by Biden alone, both before the primaries started and continuing to the end. Not even extremely briefly in IA or NH.

Btw, around that time Jong-Fast wrote, and still writes, for The Bulwark, conservative opinion site run by Bill Kristol. This article was a great success for her and picked up by many sources.

Walleye

(30,997 posts)
13. Especially sweet to this Delaware native.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:06 PM
Nov 2020

The highly unlikely but wonderful prospect of a woman vice president and a Delawarean president. Those of us who grew up here, never expected that to happen. Thank you peacetrain for your stalwart support throughout!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Yup. With so much wrong in our nation, Democrats did a good job
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:04 PM
Nov 2020

choosing Biden as our candidate. That this article was pushing an unsupportable theme wasn't just almost immediately proven back when a DUer first posted it here without comment but obvious now even to those who thought it might be true then.

Remember names. Molly Jong-Fast got a nice little boost from this blatantly anti-Biden propaganda, which was picked up by many major media sources and turned into a MSM effort that completely failed to take out our leading candidate. He was far, far too strong.

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