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Someone Tell Trump No Soldier Is Gonna Shoot Americans To Keep Him Out Of Prison (Original Post) DanieRains Nov 2020 OP
I'm not so sure about that... nt kirkuchiyo Nov 2020 #1
Joint chiefs have already stated the military will play no role in the election process. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #4
Are you really sure about that ? CincyDem Nov 2020 #2
They would instantly turn the entire country against them and end up in jail. anneboleyn Nov 2020 #12
Au contraire BamaRefugee Nov 2020 #3
No Tin Soldiers And Trump Is Coming This Time DanieRains Nov 2020 #5
Not an expert, but this looks like Joint Chiefs have no say about troops actually sent into action?? BamaRefugee Nov 2020 #9
National Guard under control of the governor of Ohio. Kaleva Nov 2020 #7
Actually it looks like Joint Chiefs have authority of some sort over National Guard.Didn't know this BamaRefugee Nov 2020 #11
JCS doesn't have operational control over military units Kaleva Nov 2020 #17
Sorry, but don't agree. Situations were radically different -- Vietnam vs one small man's ego anneboleyn Nov 2020 #10
Correct, but it looks like Trump has tons of Troops to carry his shit out like gassing Americans uponit7771 Nov 2020 #6
Yep! That wasn't a civilian helicopter over the protesters in DC that night BamaRefugee Nov 2020 #13
Those actions would be illegal not matter what Trump ordered. They would face military justice anneboleyn Nov 2020 #14
Lol have you not been paying attention for the last four years WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #8
More like Col... stillcool Nov 2020 #15
People really do want to believe now that Bad Orange Man is gone, everything is fine. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #16
Likely not Dem2 Nov 2020 #18
No soldier is going to shoot Americans to keep Trump in office. TomSlick Nov 2020 #19

CincyDem

(6,353 posts)
2. Are you really sure about that ?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:09 PM
Nov 2020

I think most military are honorable and at the same time, out of 1.3million people...even if Trumpism has infected only 10%, that's 130,000 willing participants. They can do a lot of damage. The definition of "legal orders" is going to get to be pretty challenging for some of these folks, IMHO.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
12. They would instantly turn the entire country against them and end up in jail.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:37 PM
Nov 2020

This country is not going to embrace kooks trying to enact a military coup because they don’t like election revolts.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
5. No Tin Soldiers And Trump Is Coming This Time
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:22 PM
Nov 2020

The (bad) cops maybe, but not the army.

The Joint Chiefs already told Covigula they won't get involved.

They mean it I am sure.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
7. National Guard under control of the governor of Ohio.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:28 PM
Nov 2020

I'm unaware of any order being given to the Guardsman to shoot.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
11. Actually it looks like Joint Chiefs have authority of some sort over National Guard.Didn't know this
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:37 PM
Nov 2020

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
17. JCS doesn't have operational control over military units
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 08:21 PM
Nov 2020

Commanders of Unified Commands do. And those people answer to the Sec of Def and President.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
10. Sorry, but don't agree. Situations were radically different -- Vietnam vs one small man's ego
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:34 PM
Nov 2020

National Guard guys at Kent State caught up in the hysterical anti-war protestor Vietnam insanity, young men who were armed and directed very poorly and who shot into crowds of students — killing students who were just going to class and not even protesting, are not the same as 2020 pro-Trump cultist ding-dongs who send out angry tweets b/c they have issues with vague ideas. Also, the murders at Kent State were a disaster for those trying to paint peaceful anti-war protestors as violent hippies. There’s a damn good reason why the first image is one of the most famous in our country’s history.

Large numbers of Trump cultists attempting to organize and go...somewhere? to risk their lives for a pathetic creep who has lost a historical election — I don’t see that happening. Fox couldn’t even find a group bigger than about twenty standing around somewhere looking totally deflated even as they held their guns to threaten whoever (they have no idea at this point — Trump lost in multiple states)

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
6. Correct, but it looks like Trump has tons of Troops to carry his shit out like gassing Americans
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:24 PM
Nov 2020

... and doing what happened in DC or Seattle with unmarked federal workers.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
14. Those actions would be illegal not matter what Trump ordered. They would face military justice
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 03:40 PM
Nov 2020

and I seriously doubt there are big numbers of them willing to take that risk for a selfish idiot who has done nothing for them.

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
19. No soldier is going to shoot Americans to keep Trump in office.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 10:12 PM
Nov 2020

No commander is going to order troops into American cities to keep Trump in office.

Everyone in the military from the four stars to the privates have been taught they cannot obey unlawful orders. Everyone in the military has sworn an oath to defend the Constitution.

I don't know about the Bureau of Prison goons but the military will not participate in a coup.

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