There's one good thing about the polling having been off so much

[Silent3]

It was only thinking Biden had that 8-10% lead that made the weeks and months leading up to the election livable for me.

I don't think it made us any less determined to fight hard and vote.

And if I'd known the election was so much closer all that time, I would have been a basket case.

[OhNo-Really]

1. Two elections in a row.

I’m sure someone is dissecting disconnects

[Laelth]

2. I don't think that the polling was that far off.

I think that a blue tsunami encountered a red wave of cheating, disenfranchisement, ratfuckery, ballot stuffing, voter roll-purging, and any other malfeasance that the Republicans could imagine ... and we still won.

That’s what I see.

-Laelth

[caber09]

3. Agreed 100%....we overcame all that...along with..

a ton of lost ballots, ballots sitting in post offices and not sent back to board of elections, and ballots arriving late after deadlines to count. They could rig the system based on the same day or early in person voting...but they couldnt figure out the formula to do so with all those mail in ballots coming in.

[Laelth]

5. That too. n/t

-Laelth

[They_Live]

10. All of the Above.

I am curious about the outcome of several close House and Senate races have been affected by all that jazz.

[Laelth]

12. Maine stinks to high heaven.

We could still pull the Tillis seat in NC ... unlikely, but possible. Point being, it looks like we got seriously screwed on down-ballot races. Don’t know what we can do about it, but something just ain’t right.

-Laelth

[caber09]

13. We got hurt down ballot by...

the Ratfing, all of it we are talking about...though looks like mail in ballots have/will have saved a few seats that we thought we lost in house...hopefully more than we know up and down ballot too, in 2018 it took weeks to see that we won some seats. Also defund the police hurt down ballot big time too, even in NYC...NYC Council/New York State members saying a ton of Dems in their districts (even in liberal NYC) crossed over down ballot bec of this issue (agreeing with some like Rep Abigail Spanberger) costing some seats, and making alot of races ALOT closer than they shouldve been

[Laelth]

15. "Defund the police" hurt, yes. Clyburn is right about that.

But that was organic. It was never party policy. It was barely embraced by a few on our left wing, but we were punished for it ... SOME ... but not enough to explain the losses we sustained in a number of places where we should have won.

You’re right to note that it takes time to count the votes, and our House losses are likely to be minimal, but we got screwed on a few Senate races, and the stench of those losses continues to clog up my nasal passages.

-Laelth

[caber09]

17. If it hurt in NYC...it hurt more elsewhere, just saying...in addition to all the ratf&cking...

Amazing how polls were wrong in 2016, right in 2017, right in 2018, right in 2019, then historically wrong again in 2020

[Laelth]

19. I don't think that the polling was that far off.

Please see post #2, supra.

-Laelth

[Under The Radar]

18. Gotta take State legislatures to take over ballot design

[They_Live]

21. indeed

Texas here, wasn't necessarily expecting wins over Cornyn and Chip Roy etc., but I really thought it would have been much closer.

[lagomorph777]

6. +1 We beat back a ton of cheating and still won. And may still take the Senate.

IF we go all-in.

[Thekaspervote]

11. Agee the polling the in red states, GA and AZ were good.

GA or AZ -they thought they had those all wrapped up

[Lokee11]

14. +1

Not far off at all - you hit the nail squarely on the head.

FDT!

[uponit7771]

20. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾, you're braver than I am. Please OP this and I will sit on the thread with you

[Under The Radar]

4. I will second that. It has been a difficult 4 years

...I am one that seeks the structure and mechanisms of purpose, and what continues to bewilder me is how Trumps completely flaw character isn’t obvious to 48% of the country, and 66% of my community.

[Silent3]

8. I'm not sure which is worse: the people who can't see Trump for what he is, or do see it...

...and just don't care.

I have no idea what the breakdown is, but both of those things are a factor.

[Sneederbunk]

7. Some of us actually believed the Maine polls.

[Turin_C3PO]

9. That's a good way of looking at it.

Yea, I would’ve been going crazy if I knew it was going to be this close.

[unblock]

16. hopefully this election really motivates us for 2022 and 2024

a) we know it will be close, so every effort matters and
b) we know we can win, so it's not futile.

knowing the hard work is both necessary and sufficient to win can be really motivating. hopefully we all remember this...