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Rick Wilson 2016 - "The Senate can and must deny Obama the chance to make Supreme Court appointment" (Original Post) melman Nov 2020 OP
Rick Wilson is a brilliant strategist....glad we had him on Biden's side this time!!!! Pachamama Nov 2020 #1
Me too. CatMor Nov 2020 #4
I don't know if "strategist" is the word you are looking for. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2020 #11
Shit-stirring again I see. When they turn back to the RW antics, I will castigate them. RIght now hlthe2b Nov 2020 #2
who or what is LP? Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2020 #10
the Lincoln Project (Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt and other NEVER TRUMPERS) hlthe2b Nov 2020 #12
Ah! Yes! Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2020 #20
Lincoln Project Chili Nov 2020 #14
An all consuming source of bitterness and hatred for some folks around here BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #38
. melman Nov 2020 #13
You make no point with that. I'd send to Stacey's group too, but I have no issue if one wanted hlthe2b Nov 2020 #15
Giving money to Democrats instead of Republicans seems like a no brainer. Statistical Nov 2020 #25
That is what i just said I would do. Other Dems want to give to LP, that's fine by me too. hlthe2b Nov 2020 #26
We have to convince republicans to vote for Ossoff and Warnock. Looking at the results last week.... George II Nov 2020 #27
It's also not a competition between them. Stacey Abrams is raising a lot JI7 Nov 2020 #30
Yes, there's a story going around that we suffered a "big loss" on Tuesday.... George II Nov 2020 #33
Yes. We know he was an R Loki Liesmith Nov 2020 #3
More shit stirring I see...trashing. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #5
Thanks to Dump, Rick had an epiphany. roamer65 Nov 2020 #6
they are currently trying to get Ossoff and Warnock elected Chili Nov 2020 #7
+1000 Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #9
Who cares about his past? Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #8
Right now, Rick is on our side and working to help flip the senate. cayugafalls Nov 2020 #16
Just noticed your screen name - I spent a week one night in Cayuga Falls. Seriously.... George II Nov 2020 #45
rick wilson. you can be a real ass. so the power to appoint sc justices belongs to the senate now? bullimiami Nov 2020 #17
This is exactly why we did not win the senate seats. Keep talking about how not vsrazdem Nov 2020 #18
Yep. aidbo Nov 2020 #32
A republican being a republican Renew Deal Nov 2020 #19
He is still better than grifters like trash Cenk and Krystal Ball JI7 Nov 2020 #21
To be fair, Cenk was much better this year Polybius Nov 2020 #31
Cenk was one of the few people who started the "Biden is demented" slur AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #37
I know, he was horrible during the primaries Polybius Nov 2020 #39
No KB was never on board.. she was Cha Nov 2020 #55
+1 AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #36
Wow a GOP member once supported a GOP position? Shocking. Takket Nov 2020 #22
If only you would put that laser focus of yours toward... Spazito Nov 2020 #23
Excellent point. Thank you. nt crickets Nov 2020 #34
Rick Wilson was encouraging Mitch McConnel to block any Obama nominee melman Nov 2020 #40
He's not now... Spazito Nov 2020 #41
'Was' is much different than 'is' LanternWaste Nov 2020 #53
History started yesterday! melman Nov 2020 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Nov 2020 #62
I don't care, why do you? babylonsister Nov 2020 #24
Plus that's a /3 tweet. Wonder what 1/ and 2/ said. George II Nov 2020 #46
So yesterday you pushed a Wilson tweet that RWNJ Mike Cernovich was also pushing, and here you OnDoutside Nov 2020 #28
I don't know, it just seems as if some are a bit butthurt that Biden won Hav Nov 2020 #29
In other news, Senator Warren voted for Gerald Ford, Papa Bush and Bob Dole. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #35
OH NO!! "Say it ain't so, Joe".....don't forget.... George II Nov 2020 #61
LINCOLN PROJECT campaign ad: "You Did" brooklynite Nov 2020 #42
Have they done one on the moose red to di? melman Nov 2020 #43
I have no idea what you're asking... brooklynite Nov 2020 #44
Well that makes two of us melman Nov 2020 #47
It seems that when one mistypes or posts something others don't understand, it gives license.... George II Nov 2020 #48
I believe that since the current monarch is a woman, the correct term is "Queen's English." Earthshine2 Nov 2020 #50
I actually looked it up before I posted that. There are different opinions. Some say "King's"... George II Nov 2020 #52
I am a "sir" and I am totally offended by that exclamation point at the end of your last sentence. Earthshine2 Nov 2020 #57
Well sir, now you have two things on me (can I use this "!" ?) There's a history to that username... George II Nov 2020 #58
They've done some great work. That came out just hours after the runoff was announced... George II Nov 2020 #49
TY TLP!! Too bad some can't handle your Cha Nov 2020 #56
Rick Wilson is a political operator. An operator is going to operate. Earthshine2 Nov 2020 #51
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Nov 2020 #59

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,305 posts)
11. I don't know if "strategist" is the word you are looking for.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:29 PM
Nov 2020

Advertiser? Tweet sender?


I suppose you could call it strategy when he made this ads calling war hero Max Cleland an Osama Bin Ladin sympathizer




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Wilson_(political_consultant)

Wilson played a big role in the 2002 United States Senate election in Georgia, in which Saxby Chambliss was facing Democratic Party Senator Max Cleland, a disabled veteran and recipient of the Silver Star. He helped make an ad that criticized Cleland, while also tying him to Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Furthermore, the ad seemed to question Cleland's patriotism.


hlthe2b

(102,057 posts)
2. Shit-stirring again I see. When they turn back to the RW antics, I will castigate them. RIght now
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:19 PM
Nov 2020

they are embarking on efforts to help us win Senate elections in GA and a campaign to expose the corrupt law firms launching Trump's baseless elections lawsuits.

So, inciting to try to get more of us to turn on LP RIGHT NOW is just not going to work. Later on, maybe. We shall see. I will not engage in self-defeating efforts to prove an (invalid) point.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
14. Lincoln Project
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:33 PM
Nov 2020

... of which Rick Wilson is a co-founder.

They were phenomenal against trump, and their pro-Biden ads were perfect.

And I liked the new Warnock ad I saw yesterday. They do a great job.

I think we should bribe them to keep them on our side.

BannonsLiver

(16,275 posts)
38. An all consuming source of bitterness and hatred for some folks around here
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:39 PM
Nov 2020

Literally all the OP posts about.

hlthe2b

(102,057 posts)
15. You make no point with that. I'd send to Stacey's group too, but I have no issue if one wanted
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:34 PM
Nov 2020

to donate to LP. They have shown their support.

Not sure what your issue is, but it borders on inexplicable obsessive.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
25. Giving money to Democrats instead of Republicans seems like a no brainer.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:01 PM
Nov 2020

Let discouraged Republicans donate to the Lincoln Project. Also dollar for dollar Stacey has done a lot more with a lot less.

There isn't much evidence the TLP did anything other than preach to the choir and make us (who were already going to vote for Biden) feel good. Stacey turned friggin Georgia blue.

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. We have to convince republicans to vote for Ossoff and Warnock. Looking at the results last week....
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:10 PM
Nov 2020

...if we don't win over republican voters we'll lose.

Results:

Ossoff: 2,369,486
Perdue: 2,457,778
Libertarian: 114,779

Warnock: 1,613,686
Loeffler + Collins: 2,249,292

If people can, they should contribute to both Abrams' organization and The Lincoln Project. But people should feel free to contribute to whichever one they prefer. Better than not contributing to either.

JI7

(89,233 posts)
30. It's also not a competition between them. Stacey Abrams is raising a lot
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:18 PM
Nov 2020

for her group and doing what she can to help our party. She deserves the most credit for Georgia.

If the LP wants to run some ads for democratic candidates why would anyone care. Even if the ads didn't help. It's not like they are hurting.

The ones who really have seen issue with the LP are "justice Democrats" because they haven't been getting as much money . That's why they are on social media trying to push the lie about how Democrats lost big.

No, a big loss is what happened to Cenk Uygur and Krystal Ball when they ran.



George II

(67,782 posts)
33. Yes, there's a story going around that we suffered a "big loss" on Tuesday....
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:34 PM
Nov 2020

Despite the fact that we won the Presidency, we increase our seats in the Senate (with perhaps one or two more), we lost a few seats in the House but most of those were red seats we picked up 2016 anyway.

I think this is an offshoot of the "purity" argument.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
7. they are currently trying to get Ossoff and Warnock elected
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

Let's revisit this after we've tied the Senate, with our VP as the tie-breaker.

Turin_C3PO

(13,879 posts)
8. Who cares about his past?
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

As of now, he’s a valuable ally. If he goes back to his old ways then he’ll no longer be an ally. Simple.

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
16. Right now, Rick is on our side and working to help flip the senate.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:35 PM
Nov 2020

I made mistakes in the past. Big ones. I learned from them.

Why stir the shit? It does nothing to advance the current agenda. I have listened to many of their townhalls and many times rick has said they have made a serious change and will never be able to go back to the way things were because they now see how wrong they were...

So, let's accept that for now and move on with them and support their effort to help us flip the senate.

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. Just noticed your screen name - I spent a week one night in Cayuga Falls. Seriously....
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:34 PM
Nov 2020

....I've been to the area a number of times on business trips and really liked it.

I was at the bar in my hotel in Cayuga Falls the night the Boston Red Sox FINALLY won the World Series!

bullimiami

(13,067 posts)
17. rick wilson. you can be a real ass. so the power to appoint sc justices belongs to the senate now?
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:41 PM
Nov 2020

and not the president. because that is what you said.

remember that. you fucking just remember that.


vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
18. This is exactly why we did not win the senate seats. Keep talking about how not
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:47 PM
Nov 2020

ALL republicans are bad, and the public will believe you. Lets have some more republicans at our convention, so we can show the general population how its okay to vote for SOME republicans. This is doing us no favor. We will not win over voters if we keep pushing the theory that voting for republicans is okay.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
32. Yep.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

You can’t tie Trump to the Republican Party like they deserve to have done to them if you go on and on about the ‘good republicans’ and then have them star at our convention.

There are no good republicans.

Polybius

(15,309 posts)
31. To be fair, Cenk was much better this year
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:21 PM
Nov 2020

He supported Biden early on, as soon as Bernie dropped out and endorsed him. In 2016, he endorsed Hillary a week before the election, and still bashed her. Not sure about Krystal, but she's my secret crush so I hope she's on board.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
37. Cenk was one of the few people who started the "Biden is demented" slur
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:38 PM
Nov 2020

He even had a whole video on it.

Polybius

(15,309 posts)
39. I know, he was horrible during the primaries
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:42 PM
Nov 2020

After, he shut up a bit. I remember him getting into a Twitter war with Kyle Kulinski around May because Kyle was not gonna vote for Biden. Cenk said you have to vote Biden.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
55. No KB was never on board.. she was
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:09 PM
Nov 2020

trashing Sanders when he endorsed Biden.

And, she was Gaslighting the whole time.

Spazito

(50,042 posts)
23. If only you would put that laser focus of yours toward...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:59 PM
Nov 2020

Mitch McConnell et al, the repubs that can ACTUALLY do great damage.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
40. Rick Wilson was encouraging Mitch McConnel to block any Obama nominee
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 03:03 PM
Nov 2020

Which is exactly what ended up happening. I think that's pretty fucking damaging. You are free to disagree.

Spazito

(50,042 posts)
41. He's not now...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 03:06 PM
Nov 2020

you seem to want to focus on the past instead of fighting in the present for the future. Disappointing to say the least.

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OnDoutside

(19,943 posts)
28. So yesterday you pushed a Wilson tweet that RWNJ Mike Cernovich was also pushing, and here you
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:10 PM
Nov 2020

go again. I'm embarrassed for you. We know what a b'stard Rick has been, but we also know that he's now being a b'stard to the GOP and Trump, and as long as he continues with that, he's good with me

Hav

(5,969 posts)
29. I don't know, it just seems as if some are a bit butthurt that Biden won
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:17 PM
Nov 2020

or that a certain someone wasn't crucial for Biden's win.
The LP went were many Dems won't go. It's better to have them fighting against Trumpists and they continue to fight for the Dem Senate candidates.
That beats Green party voters and Dem haters by a mile.

And by the way, this is a bit ironic after the mental gymnastics in another thread to support Sanders blocking nominees by Obama for the Postal Service only for them to get nominated by Trump.

George II

(67,782 posts)
61. OH NO!! "Say it ain't so, Joe".....don't forget....
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:57 PM
Nov 2020

Hillary Clinton was a "Goldwater Girl"*



*56 years ago when she was 17 years old.

brooklynite

(94,256 posts)
44. I have no idea what you're asking...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:33 PM
Nov 2020

As with Donald Trump's Hunter Biden rants, don't assume other people know ideological shorthand.

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. It seems that when one mistypes or posts something others don't understand, it gives license....
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:45 PM
Nov 2020

....for others to dwell on it in perpetuity.

Apparently if you waver one iota from the King's English you'll pay for it forever.

Earthshine2

(3,926 posts)
50. I believe that since the current monarch is a woman, the correct term is "Queen's English."
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:55 PM
Nov 2020

From Google ...

"Queen's English, also called King's English depending on who the British monarch of the time is, refers to Standard English (SE), or grammatically correct English. Mar 24, 2017"

You must now pay forever.

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. I actually looked it up before I posted that. There are different opinions. Some say "King's"...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:02 PM
Nov 2020

....is preferred, but other say what you say, that it depends upon the gender of the monarch at the time.

But I'll give you that - you now have license to dwell on it in perpetuity and make me pay forever.

Congratulations sir, or is it madame!

Earthshine2

(3,926 posts)
57. I am a "sir" and I am totally offended by that exclamation point at the end of your last sentence.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:17 PM
Nov 2020

It is stated as a question and therefore requires a question mark.

I get the phrase "Queen's English" from a line spoken by Sean Connery in some James Bond movie. (He has taught me so much. RIP.)

I never heard the phrase "King's English" before this encounter.

I can see why it's a thing for you. That's a rather royal-sounding user name. Well ... Long live the king!

George II

(67,782 posts)
58. Well sir, now you have two things on me (can I use this "!" ?) There's a history to that username...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:26 PM
Nov 2020

...and it has nothing to do with the King, although some (perhaps the same "some" referred to earlier?) accuse me of that.

George II

(67,782 posts)
49. They've done some great work. That came out just hours after the runoff was announced...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:54 PM
Nov 2020

I'm surprised they haven't come out with one about Loeffler yet, but they hinted they were taking the weekend off.

Any day now I hope.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
56. TY TLP!! Too bad some can't handle your
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:12 PM
Nov 2020

invaluable help with Ads like these to assist Democracy!

Earthshine2

(3,926 posts)
51. Rick Wilson is a political operator. An operator is going to operate.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:01 PM
Nov 2020

Is he on our side?

It's a two-party system. Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, and others, burned their bridges to the other guys. By logic of reduction, they are on our side.

They'll be able to make good money as media producers and consultants.

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