I think this is interesting. Pence is in Sanibel, FL for a few days.

[MineralMan]

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/local/2020/11/10/mike-pence-visiting-lee-county-florida/6226614002/

According to this, he and "Mother" will be there until Saturday. It's a "vacation." Somehow, with everything that is going on, it seems odd to me for the VP to take a vacation in Florida just now.

Perhaps he's escaping the risk of contracting COVID-19 in the White House. Maybe he wants nothing to do with what is currently going on in Donald Trump's fevered brain. It could be that he needs some time to write Trump's pardon, should Donwald decide to call it quits and get the Hell out of DC. Maybe it's just that "Mother" wanted to be "at the shore" right now.

In any case, he won't be providing any on-the-spot counsel to King Donald for a few days, assuming he ever did that in the first place. He won't be sharing his supposed "wisdom" in this troubling time for Trump, either.

I have no doubt that Mike Pence would gleefully accept being the 46th President, even if only for a month or two. "Mother" could be the First Lady, too, which would probably be nice for her, even on a short-term basis. They'd get to be in the history books. Pardoning Trump would be a small price to pay to say he'd been President of the United States, I'm thinking.

Whatever is going on, Pence is nowhere to be seen during the interim period before Trump finally accepts his downfall. Perhaps Mike Pence is wiser than he seems. He's staying out of the chaos that is the White House at the moment and kicking back on the exlusive beaches of Sanibel.

[Kali]

1. wise

or just a chicken shit rat, jumping ship

[MineralMan]

4. Perhaps both.

The White House is a dangerous place right now. Things are happening quickly, but the place is completely disorganized. Trump appears to be raving even more than usual. Maybe "Mother" is the wise one and told Pence to get the Hell away from there.

[brush]

12. Not to mention is swarming with the virus.

[exboyfil]

2. Self interest yes

Public service no. We all know he should be monitoring Trump because he is the one in the best position to do something about it if necessary.

[rzemanfl]

3. A lot of retired Intelligence Community folks live there. I wonder about that.

It may just be easier to have him on an island with limited access for security purposes, not that he deserves any.

[MineralMan]

8. I've been to Sanibel, while visiting my wife's sister in Cape Coral.

We went out on the island for breakfast and a little shell hunting on a beach there. Money is the theme, it seemed to me. You had to have a bunch of it to live on Sanibel. One road in and out. The entire island could quickly be cut off from the mainland for security reasons, as well.

That could be part of the reason he's there, for sure.

[rzemanfl]

20. I visited there once just for the day. The resale shops there had high end stuff. This was probably

15 years or more ago. My position is; white sand is white sand, why make the drive?

[MineralMan]

21. Yeah, I couldn't see any reason to go there again.

I don't collect seashells. The breakfast was good, but cost way more than it should have, despite the nice view.

[rzemanfl]

23. I have white sand close enough to bike to.

When we moved here Clinton was President and Lawton Chiles was Governor. It was damn near perfect.

[soothsayer]

5. Quarantining?

He probably just accepts it’s over

[Raven123]

6. He is exhausted. Sycophancy level on empty.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

7. Maybe Trump fired him too.

Just because that’s not the way things are done, that wouldn’t stop him.

No, really, I think avoiding covid is probably what’s going on.

[MineralMan]

11. Trump can't fire the VP. Only impeachment and removal

can take Pence out of office. More dastardly means, though, could have that effect. Maybe Pence is hiding out.

[Stand and Fight]

25. Pence could also resign. n/t

[NCDem47]

9. There's whiff of intent and startegy here.

Not sure what it is.

But Trump fis ighting for his poitical life and VP goes off to sit on the beach? Doesn't compute.

Fine by me though!

[malaise]

10. Because Eta is the lesser of two evils

[MineralMan]

14. Yes. My wife's sister, though, says they're not too worried about Eta.

Sanibel seems like a good hidey hole, though.

[LaMouffette]

13. This may seem weird from someone who does not follow any one religion, but . . .

I hope Pence is praying. No, really! Maybe his Christianity is not the transactional, fake-it-till-you-make-it-in-politics kind of religion after all, or maybe not completely. If so, maybe he's in seclusion and praying it over, in which case, he might have some kind of revelation and decide to do the right thing in the hope of saving his soul. I know, what soul, but it seems like times like these are what the 25th Amendment was made for. Oh, and prayer.

[AleksS]

16. Remember when he was a right wing radio jock?

Sorry to bring you down but his faith is quite situational, flexible, opportunistic, and fake. He’s been trumps boy for 4 Years now too—if his faith isn’t a fraud (it is) whoever he’s been praying to has not been giving him good advice so far.

[LaMouffette]

29. So his religion is as fake as his super-smooth, trust-me-I'm-a-politician persona?

Well, there goes my slim hope of divine intervention, at least where Pence is concerned!

[AleksS]

15. Eh. I figure he just decided he's done.

If he is done worrying about reelection, why would he bother to do any work?

He wasn’t in it for governing, patriotism, helping people, serving or anything like that. He has no genuine morals or sense of duty, so as soon as he lost election, why wouldn’t he just nope on out of there? He has literally no reason to do anything now.

Although: I’ll grant you, the opportunity to be president for a few days would be nice, but he doesn’t have to stop being on vacation for that. It’s not like he has anymore incentive to work as lame duck president than he does as lame duck VP.

I expect a lot of time in Florida for both Trump and pence, and very very very very little in terms of actually working (other than running the shredders—this evidence ain’t gonna destroy itself!)

[MineralMan]

17. One heartbeat away from being President.

Or, perhaps one signature away.

I would be very interested to know who else will be traveling to Sanibel over the next few days. That might provide more clues.

[AleksS]

19. Yup. Not that it would shorten his vacation time though.

He’s done putting in even the token effort. It’s all margaritas and sunshine, whether people call him mister president or mister Vice President.

[Pantagruel]

18. Covid outbreak in Washington,

Meadows and staff-Pence probably just being careful.
Too many speculating on a Trump resignation/pardon scenario-makes me skeptical.

[2naSalit]

22. Or he's plotting some stupid crap...

I don't trust him any farther than I can spit, which is no farther than the bathroom sink. Something is up and it stinks. Vacation my hind foot.

[lettucebe]

24. Do not forget Pence badly wants to run in 2024 but who might stand in the way?

There will be 200 or more people running in 2024 including tRump and three of his children. Now that they've learned how easily one can steal from campaign donations everyone wants in on the grift.

[MineralMan]

27. Pence would have zero chance, because he has zero appeal to anyone.

That's my assessment. Moving up from VP is his only opportunity.

[cbdo2007]

28. He doesn't know this. He thinks he was called by God to lead us all to salvation.

He definitely wants to run in 2024 and I think he would kick Trump out of the way in a heartbeat if he could do it and still keep the Trumper vote.

[relayerbob]

26. Recovering from COVID?

Or been told to stay away. I doubt he's "wise" enough to do that on his own