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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is disturbing is that so many media folks are treating this as a joke or the behavior
of a mollycoddled asshole rather than as sedition.
This is an attempted coup going on here - a fucking constitutional crisis.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Response to malaise (Original post)
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malaise
(267,791 posts)and he told me this before election day
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Im willing to bet Pelosi, Schumer, Biden and Harris et al have one too. No one is pretending to be naïve anymore. Excepting the Republicans of course.
relayerbob
(6,508 posts)They are likely ten steps ahead of them and us on this.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,535 posts)When they appear to be naive, ignorant or just plain dumb, believe it.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)malaise
(267,791 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)because its going to be virtual and Bidens team has already shown they can do virtual shindigs.
Im gonna love attending my first Presidential Inauguration! I cant wait!
exboyfil
(17,857 posts)and the last one to try it was Nixon and it was half hearted and didn't use the government.
It is dangerous, destabilizing, and, given that he has the power of the Presidency, a distinct possibility of being successful.
Reporters need to emphasize that all elections have some irregularities. They are usually small and impact in both directions. The 2016 election appears to be closer than this one, and, if Clinton and Obama had been willing to follow this approach, probably would have discovered as many irregularities.
The approach is insulting to the local poll workers and counting workers and the monitors from BOTH parties. It is insulting to the various Secretaries of State who run the elections.
hadEnuf
(2,149 posts)He will apparently do anything to stay in power.
Lonestarblue
(9,874 posts)I hope she can send the whole family to jail. If not, well never be rid of this despicable family. Jr. and his girlfriend are trying to take over the RNC to help themselves to donations and make sure all future decisions by the national party favor Trumps.
58Sunliner
(4,339 posts)cab67
(2,962 posts)We should obviously be taking this seriously, but some of what they're doing really is unintentionally funny.
maxsolomon
(32,975 posts)these bumbling idiots can't possibly be serio... oh, wait. they actually DID put toddlers in cages and lost their parents.
cab67
(2,962 posts)The atrocities along the border largely took place before people paid attention. They're paying attention now, and the people trying to pull this off are arguably less competent than those who pulled families apart.
I'm not at all saying they're not trying to game the system, but I don't think they're smart enough to bring it about under the world's gaze.
maxsolomon
(32,975 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:59 PM - Edit history (1)
didn't want to do it; they obeyed orders.
everything is "sarcasm" or "joking" or "ironic", but they come right out and say what they're going to do.
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)Rebl2
(13,301 posts)newdayneeded
(1,939 posts)Even Tucker Carlson is not going along with the BS lawsuits, others on Fox have said they haven't seen any credible evidence for the crap either. I really don't think anybody is laughing.
Duppers
(28,094 posts)"Inciting insurrection" too - thread:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214514490
It's time to dominate these GOP traitors!
Rebl2
(13,301 posts)see anyone in the media treating this as a joke. I do believe this is an attempted coup by this disturbed administration.
Pepsidog
(6,252 posts)electors to go rogue. I told my kids four years ago dis you ever imagine we would be fighting to save our republic. Sure Laurence Tribe wrote how the Rs plan to cancel the Pa vote if Trump lost by claiming massive voter fraud. As I recall, Tribe ended the article by saying something to the effect that Pas Gov Wolfe has the last say and would not sign off on the plan. That rational was based on the assumption the SCOTUS would faithfully interpret the Pa. election law. Now I read articles that in some R states there is no consequence for voting against the will of the people. Very concerning that note Rs have not repudiated Trump. Even more crazy that once again Trump has the media focused on non-existent voter fraud than other more important issues. Trump is using Mark Levins playbook and this needs to be exposed. The fight isnt over yet.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)This has been a Constitutional crisis since all US intel agencies announced russia interfered in the 2016 "election" (shortly after the election) & not a fucking thing was done to rectify it.
Steadily getting worse!
Now our national security is dangerously compromised due to his firings.
How long and to what extent will this be allowed to escalate?
Javaman
(62,439 posts)That is what is needed
Roc2020
(1,601 posts)Nothing can stop that except destroying the constitution and America. Reality will impose itself Jan.20th.
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)Trust me, Nicolle Wallace, Claire McCaskill and David Plouffe are not taking this as a joke.
malaise
(267,791 posts)I'm watching them
bdamomma
(63,650 posts)taking this seriously. I liked hearing Michael Cohen talk about tRump just leaving to go back to Florida, what going back to Florida????
he will be arrested.
malaise
(267,791 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,632 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,114 posts)If the MSM had acted responsibly during the campaigns it would have made a difference
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Every time I try to raise the alarm half of DU pooh-poohs me as a conspiracy nut.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)with it despite the fact that he's gotten away with an unbelievable amount of things for the last 4 years.
Doesn't make sense to me.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)There is nothing he will not try.
There is no bottom.
This thing is GAINING MOMENTUM. Not losing it.
ANYTHING REMAINS POSSIBLE.
usaf-vet
(6,092 posts)..... "so help me God". YOU will not be president and the new POTUS can have you forcibly dragged in handcuffs from the WH.
People will pay big bucks to watch live streaming pay per view of you being frog marched from the WH.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,282 posts)Having GSA stop normal transition access, to offices, briefings, etc, yeah, that's sedition.
jalan48
(13,797 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)and that even R's are accepting a peaceful transition of power and that people who thought Trump's accusations would disrupt things were buying into garbage and paranoid. It felt like a not too subtle way to say stfu.
malaise
(267,791 posts)this is sedition.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)is able to convince Red state legislatures to cooperate with him by climbing on board his election fraud train, the more difficult things will be on January 20 and beyond. The fact that so many Congressional Republicans are staying quiet through this and not even acknowledging Joe Biden's victory is not only disgusting but alarming.
It's like they've all gone insane.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)There is nothing Trump has done that violates the constitution at this point (at least in terms of the election).
It doesn't state in the constitution you have to concede an election. It doesn't state you can't fight the results. It doesn't even state anywhere in the constitution you have to accept the transition process PRIOR to January 20th.
It sucks but we're not in a constitutional crisis. We're in the middle of a tantrum by a president who is being pacified by a party who likely knows, in the end, it's not going anywhere but would rather he exhaust his legal options before finally telling him to shut it down.
jaxexpat
(6,700 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)He has programmed his followers to do his bidding for him, to commit crimes on his behalf, to forfeit their careers for his glory.
That makes them highly dangerous fellow citizens. This is the Manchurian Party.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,271 posts)We were fighting a court battle and they were fighting a PR/street battle.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,535 posts)Part of him is "mollycoddled asshole," true enough. But he is also a lying cheat and fraudster, a blustering bully AND a seditious, existential threat to democracy.
He is to politics and business as Jim Thorpe was to sports, but not in a good way.
malaise
(267,791 posts)Skittles
(152,964 posts)it is disgusting
malaise
(267,791 posts)and so are his enablers. They do not care who dies as long as they have power and can enrich themselves