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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'll say it. The Joint Chiefs need to say that they support the Constitution and will
not stand idly by if a coup is attempted in the United States.
You don't bring a handgun to this kind of fight - YOU BRING THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
To our kumbaya DU'er's - this is real folks, don't think it isn't.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)exboyfil
(17,862 posts)They will use the state legislatures and the courts.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)That's Plan C my friend.
When the legislatures and courts don't go along.
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)They are also duty-bound, officers and enlisted, to refuse illegal orders from civilians.
chomper
(113 posts)We (the US) is in really trouble now.
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)those serving now. Our military won't let us down if things go sideways.
Bobstandard
(1,303 posts)The modern mind set is not inclined to thinking of constitutional responsibilities. Note that Armed Forces Radio carries Rush Limbaugh all over the world and has since his earliest days. They're indoctrinated with the right wing poison. I think this a worse situation than most people think.
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)Retired officer. I know what you refer to, he joined in the 90's, but I also believe the vast majority are solid and will do the right thing.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,563 posts)Granted it was before Rush Limbaugh was on the air. You are not forced to listen to Rush (at least I hope not) and all members of the military are very familiar with the concept of the right to refuse an illegal order. The military is a cross section of society. There will be some super-charged right wingers, several centrists and some on the left. It's not the auto-think group your comment seems to imply.
33taw
(2,439 posts)I dont trust the military, they rolled over and played dead regardless of their oath.
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)more who wanted nothing to do with him. Mattis was the biggest disappointment, Flynn was a treasonous nut, and Kelly is politically a nasty GOPer but not nuts. They all served under Obama, and followed his orders until they retired. Active duty officers know what their roles and duties are.
33taw
(2,439 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)What then?
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)*I* might start to believe it, LOL. But seriously, I just don't see them acting against their oath. I don't think it will ever come to that, either.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)some people are ha ha, look at these fools, while others are THIS IS REAL FFS
Anyway yes, Im 100% in favor of this, thank you, no
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)They won't be broadcasting it to the country
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)At the level they are, I would not risk losing a lifetime of work. If asked, they should simply say they took an oath to defend the US Constitution against all threats, foreign and domestic. And stop at that.
Beside, don't give the enemy warning. Just hit hard from "out of nowhere".
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)What it means to 'no longer have elections'.
Seeing as how ... the democratic process is WHY they have fucking jobs or power of any kind.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Then they're on the bottom with the rest of us.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)as a leader, seems like you probably can also say that you personally get to appoint the House and Senate, indeed, to say whether there even is going to be either one period ... and nobody will stop you.
Eid Ma Clack Shaw
(490 posts)in an attempted coup is a disgusting person who should be tried in a court of law and if convicted, punished as lackeys of fascist organisations have been through history. From the lowest ranking to the highest, there is no excuse. None.
Bobstandard
(1,303 posts)world wide wally
(21,740 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)Mordred
(154 posts)The Joint Chiefs are only an advisory panel and command no troops. Sure they can make a statement that has some sway or influence, but they have no hard power.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)The commanders of the 10 Unified Commands do and these people answer directly to the SecDef.