Hyundai...What da fuck?

w/no spare no need to call AAA

Thanks for the warning. I have been looking for another car for over a year and will be ready to purchase in January. I'll steer clear (heh, heh) of Hyundai.

Cars should come with a full-sized spare!!

We later found out that it did not include a spare. 😡

It must have been a while since you bought a car. Mine has a pump too. There is no place that you could even stash a donut, unless you tie it to the roof, or stick it in the back seat.

I still have my old Hyundai Elantra that I keep around, and it has a full spare in the back.

And pass my current one down to one of my kids. They stay on the road forever.

I absolutely love it. My husband is so close to switching from RAV to Crosstrek..

They may have modified it by now. Still, it's not enough of an issue to bother me that much. Most of my driving these days is city.

At about 312,000 miles if had some head gasket problems (leaky), and the price to have them replaced was very high on the labor, but very low in parts. We were getting close to needing a few other relatively minor things (tires, tie-rod ends, etc.) so we decided to just bite the bullet and buy another new one. So 3 months short of 20 years of ownership we went to the local Subaru dealer. We pulled in and parked, and a salesperson came out. I said "We bought this one here 20 years ago from a guy named (insert name here)."

Salesperson says, "Oh, yeah - he's here today. Want to see him?"

Same salesperson, 20 years later! We bought a new (2016) Crosstrek from him after a zero-pressure test drive. The new Outbacks are HUGE, and we didn't need that much anymore. The Crosstrek is the perfect size for us at this point. Turns out the salesperson had started a few month before we bought the first one, and was getting close to thinking about retiring when we bought the second one. I don't know how common it is for a car salesperson to have a full, 20+ year career at one dealership, but I think it speaks highly of the dealership and their product to have someone like that stick around for so long.

What happened to the old Outback? We gave it to a friend, and he and his brother-in-law did the work and got it going very well again. Our friend used it for a few years, and then gave it to another brother-in-law that needed a car when they bought a slightly newer Outback. So, 24 years along, over 350K miles, and it's still going strong.

Definitely have had excellent experience with our Subarus, and have no hesitation about recommending them.

30% of Hyundai’s 2018 and after don’t have spares...something about the spare being heavier than the “tire mobility kit” that they’ve replaced them with and the effects of that weight on fuel economy. That’s kind of a big deal, imho. At least they should warn a customer about it. Good grief.

I put a scissors jack in the trunk. STD equipment is a compressor which can fill the tire with goop, thus ruining the tire if it's just a nail or something like that. Best to have a spare at home if you can.

The battery takes up part of the trunk

I don’t think I’ve ever blown a tire out on the road. I would much rather have the truck space and a triple A subscription.

as I learned two weeks ago. We were downtown when i got a low pressure warning. My tire was at 22 psi. By the time we reached the end of the block it was just 17. Pulled into a gas station and by that time it was a four. There was a huge chunk of metal lodged in it and the tire was not repairable.

Funny thing is when I was reading my email the next day, the car had emailed me twice to give me updated pressure readings and warn me to do something about it. It's a great time to be alive.

... they had usb flash drives to replace them

I'll go out and do that now.

I go to dealerships to teach salesmen, mainly Toyota. This was your salesman’s fault because he did not disclose it. Because he did not want to battle you in case it became an objection. Also every good salesman should point out the monroney sticker to the customer.

All I got was a can of sealant and a compressor.

Since I was upgrading from a previous model, I kept the full-sized spare I used to carry in the old car.

It’s a space-saver one, under the cargo area in a compartment. I guess it will do in a pinch

A couple of months ago we bought a 2020 Optima for $27,000 total including a 10 year bumper to bumper warranty. It is our third Optima. We gave away our 2009 Optima with 164,000 miles on it. We also have a 2015 that came with a lifetime warranty that if we sell it the second owner keeps the warranty. The 2015 and the 2020 do not have spare tires. If I have a blowout I will just pull over. I would bet that one of the first five cars coming by would stop, take off the tire, take me and the tire to get a new one, wait for the new one to be mounted, take me back to the car and mount it. I would give them $20 to put in the collection plate on Sunday and they would wish me a blessed day. That's rural town USA. We would hug if it wasn't for the pandemic.

and I love my car.

Toyotas and Hondas built 2000 to 2010 were better than cars will ever be again.

Does it have that annoying "idle stop and go" feature?

I have no idea if those are available or practical in that size though. They can still fail catastrophically but may be a good compromise.

Maybe longer.

It happened on a Sunday morning outside of Boise City, OK. I called AAA, they sent a truck out to change the tire. My car has a donut spare. Well, the driver said he knew the guy who owned the tire store in town, and he'd call the guy to see if he'd open up to sell me a replacement. Which is what happened. I thought for sure I was SOL on getting a replacement tire without driving at least another 60 miles to Guymon. Thank you, AAA. And thank you for how people in small towns and cities know each other.

I am having trouble remember a previous flat tire. Maybe the one in Denver in 1988? At least for me, they are very rare occurrences.

So I will travel with a new, mounted full sized tire in the truck.

There is a spare, AWD, crash-safe, heated seats and sunroof.

$35,000 for a Sonata???? Does it have diamond crusted appointments and hover ability?

In 2007 I bought a Toyota Camry fully loaded and drove it home. When I got there, something was nagging at me I wasn’t sure what it was. I went upstairs, about an hour later I went back down to the car and realized what it was: there were no floor mats. So I drove back to the dealer and to the horrified faces of the manager and salesman when I walked in the door. I walked up to them and said you forgot to put the floor mats in my car. The manager said let me check, walked over to the car and read down the sticker that was still attached to the window. He said nope no floor mats on the sticker. I walked over to it, read down and said oh look no steering wheel either, but I see one sticking up out of the dashboard. There must be some mistake. He said you’re welcome to buy floor mats in our store. I replied, Not in 1 million years would I give you the business after you sold me a $33,000 car with no floormat.