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Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:23 PM

Hyundai...What da fuck?

$35,000 for a new Sonata. So I starts reading the manual. Theres a section about a pump so's you can pump air into a deflated tire. But what about a blowout?

Manual? Nothing. So I call the dealer. Nope. There's no spare, not even a "donut.'

"Well, what if I get a blowout in the middle of Pennsylvania Tumpland?

"Sorry."

And the sales rep doesn't even bother to tell me to buy a mounted spare.

So, off to Tire Rack.

BEWARE on your new car.

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Reply Hyundai...What da fuck? (Original post)
3Hotdogs Nov 10 OP
msongs Nov 10 #1
Laffy Kat Nov 10 #2
obamanut2012 Nov 10 #14
Laffy Kat Nov 10 #16
helpisontheway Nov 10 #3
dem4decades Nov 10 #4
Chainfire Nov 10 #5
cwydro Nov 10 #6
helpisontheway Nov 10 #15
cwydro Nov 10 #17
Laffy Kat Nov 10 #18
helpisontheway Nov 10 #19
Laffy Kat Nov 10 #20
SeattleVet Nov 11 #35
helpisontheway Nov 11 #36
MontanaMama Nov 10 #7
rickford66 Nov 10 #8
Hassin Bin Sober Nov 10 #9
Dagstead Bumwood Nov 10 #10
Nictuku Nov 10 #11
WhiskeyGrinder Nov 10 #12
3Hotdogs Nov 10 #30
Lobo27 Nov 10 #13
MurrayDelph Nov 10 #21
frazzled Nov 10 #23
marie999 Nov 10 #22
Baltimike Nov 10 #24
Under The Radar Nov 10 #25
Klaralven Nov 10 #26
3Hotdogs Nov 10 #31
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 10 #27
Shermann Nov 10 #28
PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 10 #29
3Hotdogs Nov 10 #32
JanMichael Nov 10 #33
PCIntern Nov 10 #34

Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:25 PM

1. after your blowout with no spare u can recharge your iCrap til AAA arrives. Oh wait,

w/no spare no need to call AAA

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:26 PM

2. That's odd. Gosh.

Thanks for the warning. I have been looking for another car for over a year and will be ready to purchase in January. I'll steer clear (heh, heh) of Hyundai.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:37 PM

14. They aren't the only company who doesn't give you a spare

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:42 PM

16. That's just wrong. I don't even like the donuts.

Cars should come with a full-sized spare!!

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:26 PM

3. Yup! My son purchased a new Hyundai Elantra without us there..

We later found out that it did not include a spare. 😡

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:27 PM

4. so you have to put it in the trunk?

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:27 PM

5. They haven't told you to get AAA yet?

It must have been a while since you bought a car. Mine has a pump too. There is no place that you could even stash a donut, unless you tie it to the roof, or stick it in the back seat.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:29 PM

6. Geez, I bought a new Subaru for less than that.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:39 PM

15. Me too! I purchased my first Subie in 2019. 2019 Subaru Forester Sport that cost less than the above

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:42 PM

17. Mine was in 2019 also. An Outback.

I still have my old Hyundai Elantra that I keep around, and it has a full spare in the back.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:44 PM

18. I'm on my third Subie and will more than likely buy another in January.

And pass my current one down to one of my kids. They stay on the road forever.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:47 PM

19. I was a Toyota person but now I can't imagine driving anything other than Subaru

I absolutely love it. My husband is so close to switching from RAV to Crosstrek..

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:49 PM

20. My only complaint, at least with the Outbacks, is the road noise.

They may have modified it by now. Still, it's not enough of an issue to bother me that much. Most of my driving these days is city.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 02:33 AM

35. We bought a 1996 Outback, new, at the end of 96.

At about 312,000 miles if had some head gasket problems (leaky), and the price to have them replaced was very high on the labor, but very low in parts. We were getting close to needing a few other relatively minor things (tires, tie-rod ends, etc.) so we decided to just bite the bullet and buy another new one. So 3 months short of 20 years of ownership we went to the local Subaru dealer. We pulled in and parked, and a salesperson came out. I said "We bought this one here 20 years ago from a guy named (insert name here)."

Salesperson says, "Oh, yeah - he's here today. Want to see him?"

Same salesperson, 20 years later! We bought a new (2016) Crosstrek from him after a zero-pressure test drive. The new Outbacks are HUGE, and we didn't need that much anymore. The Crosstrek is the perfect size for us at this point. Turns out the salesperson had started a few month before we bought the first one, and was getting close to thinking about retiring when we bought the second one. I don't know how common it is for a car salesperson to have a full, 20+ year career at one dealership, but I think it speaks highly of the dealership and their product to have someone like that stick around for so long.

What happened to the old Outback? We gave it to a friend, and he and his brother-in-law did the work and got it going very well again. Our friend used it for a few years, and then gave it to another brother-in-law that needed a car when they bought a slightly newer Outback. So, 24 years along, over 350K miles, and it's still going strong.

Definitely have had excellent experience with our Subarus, and have no hesitation about recommending them.

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Response to SeattleVet (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 02:56 AM

36. Oh wow that is awesome! Nt

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:29 PM

7. I googled the issue and you're exactly right.

30% of Hyundaiís 2018 and after donít have spares...something about the spare being heavier than the ďtire mobility kitĒ that theyíve replaced them with and the effects of that weight on fuel economy. Thatís kind of a big deal, imho. At least they should warn a customer about it. Good grief.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:29 PM

8. Our 2017 Mustang GT has no spare (no room) or jack or tire iron.

I put a scissors jack in the trunk. STD equipment is a compressor which can fill the tire with goop, thus ruining the tire if it's just a nail or something like that. Best to have a spare at home if you can.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:32 PM

9. Our Ford Fusion plug in Is like that.

The battery takes up part of the trunk

I donít think Iíve ever blown a tire out on the road. I would much rather have the truck space and a triple A subscription.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:32 PM

10. I have a '19 and it definitely has a doughnut

as I learned two weeks ago. We were downtown when i got a low pressure warning. My tire was at 22 psi. By the time we reached the end of the block it was just 17. Pulled into a gas station and by that time it was a four. There was a huge chunk of metal lodged in it and the tire was not repairable.

Funny thing is when I was reading my email the next day, the car had emailed me twice to give me updated pressure readings and warn me to do something about it. It's a great time to be alive.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:34 PM

11. At least when computers lost their floppy and CD drives....

... they had usb flash drives to replace them

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:35 PM

12. You didn't check before you bought it?

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:52 PM

30. Nope. And I also forgot to check if it had windshield wipers.

I'll go out and do that now.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:36 PM

13. I work in the industry

I go to dealerships to teach salesmen, mainly Toyota. This was your salesmanís fault because he did not disclose it. Because he did not want to battle you in case it became an objection. Also every good salesman should point out the monroney sticker to the customer.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:51 PM

21. Same with my new Prius

All I got was a can of sealant and a compressor.

Since I was upgrading from a previous model, I kept the full-sized spare I used to carry in the old car.

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Response to MurrayDelph (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:00 PM

23. Our new Prius came with a spare

Itís a space-saver one, under the cargo area in a compartment. I guess it will do in a pinch

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:00 PM

22. I hope that $35,000 included everything.

A couple of months ago we bought a 2020 Optima for $27,000 total including a 10 year bumper to bumper warranty. It is our third Optima. We gave away our 2009 Optima with 164,000 miles on it. We also have a 2015 that came with a lifetime warranty that if we sell it the second owner keeps the warranty. The 2015 and the 2020 do not have spare tires. If I have a blowout I will just pull over. I would bet that one of the first five cars coming by would stop, take off the tire, take me and the tire to get a new one, wait for the new one to be mounted, take me back to the car and mount it. I would give them $20 to put in the collection plate on Sunday and they would wish me a blessed day. That's rural town USA. We would hug if it wasn't for the pandemic.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:03 PM

24. I have a '12 volvo s60 with a spare

and I love my car.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:05 PM

25. Blowout in trumpland? Keep driving, please don't stop

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:05 PM

26. Less weight helps them out on fleet fuel mileage -- regulations are making new cars very undesirable

Toyotas and Hondas built 2000 to 2010 were better than cars will ever be again.

Does it have that annoying "idle stop and go" feature?

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:54 PM

31. No, Its actually fun to drive.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:12 PM

27. My 1991 Volvo 240 has a spare tire, jack, a mini toolkit, gloves, and 2 places to store the spare.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:44 PM

28. One option for vehicles with no spare is run flat tires

I have no idea if those are available or practical in that size though. They can still fail catastrophically but may be a good compromise.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:22 PM

29. For what it's worth, I've had one flat tire in something like 15 years.

Maybe longer.

It happened on a Sunday morning outside of Boise City, OK. I called AAA, they sent a truck out to change the tire. My car has a donut spare. Well, the driver said he knew the guy who owned the tire store in town, and he'd call the guy to see if he'd open up to sell me a replacement. Which is what happened. I thought for sure I was SOL on getting a replacement tire without driving at least another 60 miles to Guymon. Thank you, AAA. And thank you for how people in small towns and cities know each other.

I am having trouble remember a previous flat tire. Maybe the one in Denver in 1988? At least for me, they are very rare occurrences.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:56 PM

32. I drive 50k + per year. So I want to be prepared for as much road trouble as possible.

So I will travel with a new, mounted full sized tire in the truck.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:57 PM

33. Our 2017 Subaru Legacy was $21,000 in 2018

There is a spare, AWD, crash-safe, heated seats and sunroof.

$35,000 for a Sonata???? Does it have diamond crusted appointments and hover ability?

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:01 PM

34. Funny story:

In 2007 I bought a Toyota Camry fully loaded and drove it home. When I got there, something was nagging at me I wasnít sure what it was. I went upstairs, about an hour later I went back down to the car and realized what it was: there were no floor mats. So I drove back to the dealer and to the horrified faces of the manager and salesman when I walked in the door. I walked up to them and said you forgot to put the floor mats in my car. The manager said let me check, walked over to the car and read down the sticker that was still attached to the window. He said nope no floor mats on the sticker. I walked over to it, read down and said oh look no steering wheel either, but I see one sticking up out of the dashboard. There must be some mistake. He said youíre welcome to buy floor mats in our store. I replied, Not in 1 million years would I give you the business after you sold me a $33,000 car with no floormat.

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