After what they did to Obama, and with McConnell & Graham already threatening to do with Joe Biden

[mtnsnake]

I hope to hell we never hear another word about working with the other side if the two January elections in Georgia push the Senate over to us.

I know Joe means well when he says he wants to work with the other side, and I also know that if we don't win the Senate, he will try to compromise just enough with those motherfuckers to get some things done. But if we do get control, and there's a pretty good chance we will, then we should ram every goddamn aspect of the most progressive and liberal agendas right through Congress and straight into law. No compromise and no mercy, not one iota. See how they like it. Fuck them!!

[Binkie The Clown]

1. While revenge is sweet, we should not further widen the split that is tearing the country apart.

Our first priority should be country over party, and find common ground whenever and whenever we can. Job one is to heal the country. And I think Joe understands that.

[WVreaper]

4. I agree but..........

They don't deserve it. We have played by their rules for twelve years now. Enough is enough.

[mtnsnake]

5. Yes this

As you said, enough is enough

[Binkie The Clown]

10. If by "they" you mean the RW politicians, I agree. But if by "they" you mean

ordinary American citizens who are conservative, then I disagree. We've got to win the confidence of all American citizens (or as many as we can) and let those American citizens stick it to the politicians. The best revenge on the RW pols is to have them voted out of office, and the best way to do that is get more and more people on our side. And the way to do that is to find common ground with them.

[redstatebluegirl]

6. I agree.

[TwilightZone]

7. Agreed. If we're going to stop Covid-19, for example...

we're going to need GOP governors and other officials to support the plan to address it. That's not going to be easy, but it's necessary if the plan is going to be consistently applied. Without that, it's going to be much harder.

I also agree that Joe understands what needs to be done. He knows these people way better than most of us do.

[luv2fly]

11. No matter what Dems might do the repugs will bitch

So go all out progressive leftist socialist and make them squirm. If it is right for the people it is right, regardless of whether it makes repugs happy. Fuck 'em if they can't see it.

[Binkie The Clown]

12. Does the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face" ring a bell?

Who is going to end the hostilities. We know it won't be them. They aren't big enough. Joe IS big enough. It's time for the hostilities to end. Or else we'll end up like the Middle East (or those who still can't let go of the Civil War) passing down our grievances from generation to generation. Do you really want to teach your children and their children to divide and hate?

[mtnsnake]

14. If we get the Senate we would not be cutting off our nose to spite our face

if we pushed through our progressive and liberal agendas. If we have control of Congress there would be no worrying about noses to cut off, period.

[Binkie The Clown]

15. Piss off enough citizens and your control of the Senate will be short-lived.

And then here we go again.

Better a long term solution by healing the country than a short term revenge that does more damage in the long run.

[mtnsnake]

21. Do you honestly think that being all warm & fuzzy with repubs could possibly work??

BTW, this is not some short term revenge. It's ONLY about standing tough and doing what is right, and if we gain control of the Senate, then the progressive and liberal agenda we push through WILL be the right thing for the country.

[luv2fly]

18. Doing right for the people is NOT hostile

Just because repugs don't like it does not make being good to the citizens a hostile act.

[mtnsnake]

13. Amen to that and then some.

I absolutely can't believe that some people here could possibly think that today's Republicans would ever agree to work with us. They will not.

[FrankTC]

16. If You Can Find Common Ground . . . .

it will be because the Republicans are lying. Democrats should reply to Republicans strong-arm tactics with a stronger arm. Democrats should pursue their goals without compunction or any concern for Republicans achieving theirs. Because almost by definition their goals will be evil — promoting inequality, comforting the comfortable, shredding the social safety net, degrading the environment, defunding science, and promoting superstition, paranoia, and xenophobia. If you didn’t embrace these goals, why would you bother being a Republican? And if the Republicans are treated with concern and caring, their take-home learning will be that they can run roughshod over Democrats and abuse the political system — that they can erect one set of rules for themselves (might makes right) and hold Democrats to a higher standard (better angels) — with absolutely no price. They will learn — and probably are already convinced — that hypocrisy pays. They will become more and more unhinged. We’re seeing it already. Elections, they say — fuhgettaboutit, we don’t need no stinkin elections, we got your autocrat/boss/Fuehrer right here, ready to go for the next twenty years. Democrats need to reply to Republicans with a stronger arm.

[Binkie The Clown]

19. I'm talking about common ground with the people.

And believe me there is more that we have in common as Americans that we we have dividing us. People need to be reminded of that because only the people can vote out the RW trouble makers. But they have to want stabililty and "normalcy" again. And they won't do that unless we win them over.

[mtnsnake]

20. Well said and true to the bone. I hope everyone reads your post.

Thank you for posting!

[Maven]

22. Delusional. nt

[Binkie The Clown]

23. I admire the logic behind your post.

[Maven]

24. There is no 'logic' that can counter willful blindness.

As we have seen so often with Trumpers who inhabit an alternate reality.

[LizBeth]

2. If we don't get the senate, he executive orders, beef of and fix and strengthen departments and 2022

take senate and pass legislation and put justices in.

And ya, I agree with your post and just sick of being told to be empathetic, kind, compassionate or work with. They are not my enemy? Ya they are. And enemy of much of the U.S.

[Mike Nelson]

3. Agree...

... I like Biden's tone - it's perfect. However, the actual work should be aggressive to the max, by whatever means necessary.

[regnaD kciN]

8. The problem is, the "other side" is among us as well...

Notice that Joe Manchin and Dianne Feinstein have already said they'd refuse to end the filibuster, even if we capture the Senate.

That's the problem we've had all along -- we embrace a "big tent" notion that includes conservatives as well as liberals, while the Republicans press for an ideologically-pure right-wing party. While the notion may sound nice, it means that, even when we get the numerical majority, we're more often than not in still the ideological minority. That's why the ACA is what it is: even with a numeric "filibuster-proof majority" in 2009-2010, Obama still had to jettison the public option in order to keep the bill from being killed by a filibuster abetted by our own members.

[Bev54]

9. I am hoping Joe and Kamala can work with some of the other

not so well known republican senators to get some work done.

[WyattKansas]

17. The Democratic Party has extened the olive branch repeatedly to Republicans...

Only to have it chainsawed off as soon as the Republican get a chance to screw over the Democratic Party for years.

The time has come for REPUBLICANS to grow the fuck up, get their shit together, and actually make the damn effort to work for the American People instead of using them as hostages. There was a clear mandate in this election with Biden's win and Republicans in the hot seat to move closer to the American People.